If Dragonflight fails, is it over for WoW?

A lot of people here said that Shadowlands killed a lot of interest for WoW and how it led to so many unsubscribing and finding new games, a lot of people are also saying that this is essentially WoW’s last chance at coming out with a good expansion.

If Dragonflight succeeds I’m sure we’d all be happy, but if it fails would this be the end of WoW?

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I think taking the empty threats/bitterness of gamers on this forum seriously is not something that should be on your list of things to do.

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Nah, because it’s hard to define “failure”. Shadowlands sold like what, 4 million copies? Is that a failure, just because the reception afterwards tanked?

Everquest is still running on its like 28th expansion with probably a couple thousand players at the most. WoW will keep on ticking, most likely. If there’s a major loss of revenue, they may revisit their content delivery schedule and/or some of the team may get sacked. But the game itself can probably survive a lot.

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Are they? Well that’s nice.

The game still makes money hand over fist. That’s in spite of the poor reception for shadowlands and the horrific allegations that came to light in the lawsuit. It also still has heaps of viewers on twitch, so there is obviously still massive interest in general. So I think WoW is here to stay for a while yet.

And the general opinion of DF so far is that it’s great. So that’s nice.

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Given that Microsoft just dropped a few billion dollars into buying Blizzard, I’m going to go with a no. Microsoft obviously saw potential in the company and the products and the long term viability.

I do think DF though will be the last “Blizzard” expansion though we get. Anything coming in the future, for better or worse, will come with Microsoft’s active involvement even as far as a foundational level.

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If DF doesn’t have any new piggeh mounts, then as far as I’m concerned, it’s a fail.

A terrible, terrible, no good, awful fail.

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Almost definitely. It’ll stay alive technically, but they’ll shift more to a diablo immortal strategy.

On the plus side, there’s almost no way DF can be worse than SL from what we’ve seen so far. Yeah, I know, super high bar there.

But I think the worst case scenario is basically “scuffed legion”. It has potential to be a good one.

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I sincerely doubt that Microsoft will even look at WoW’s development unless it completely bottoms out or the team continues to have abuse allegations.

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no look at what all the other mmo’s are running on practically no one playing. there’s only 2 mmo’s that even have a population out of all of the ones around will i still play wow if it gets like some of the other mmo’s no but thats me i don’t play no dead mmo’s cause boring i’ll just go play some other game that ain’t dead i could care less.

They didn’t overhaul the UI for the sake of doing it. They have a plan for the game. WoW may look different 4-6 years from now but there will still be a WoW.

How many people will be playing it, that’s a different discussion for another thread.

People said the same thing of WoD, Legion, BFA, SL.
Us addicts ain’t going nowhere.

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Most people around here seem to define failure as “I don’t like it” which considering most of this games social media playerbase seems to love to hate this game, means they’ve hated everything until something new comes along to hate. Cannot freaking wait for all the Sl wasn’t actually bad posts.

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May I point you to Everquest. Still going after 24 years

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I’m already seeing them lol

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personally from what I’ve seen so far, DF is gonna be a success. I’m not gonna say it’s going to be wildly successful, but I and many others like what we’ve got to experience on the beta and if they can keep that up then they’ll have a good expansion that might garner some good will back from the community.

That said if they take this good start and absolutely throw it away with poor choices, theres a good chance I hang up my sub and go back to EQ or FF14. SL was a tough pill to swallow and I experienced more burnout than usual even as a “casual” player and the whole thing left a sour taste in my mouth. I’m willing to give DF a chance because the beta had me pretty happy with things.

Failure is well defined.

DF must succeed or fail.

Failure means they can’t bring back the people that left as a core base at the start of systemlands.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

I think quite the opposite. I think we’ll see WoW coming to XBOX to finally tap into console pie money Blizzard has continuously turned their nose up at. As I understand things too, the Microsoft gaming big cheese also has a reputation for being hands on. The only sad thing is I also recall Ybarra also coming from or having ties from MS so odds are he isn’t going anywhere…a shame imo.

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Devs have been taking down faction bairers, which in a way I’m a bit ok with now but seeing this:

Made me think, “is pvp relevant anymore” if it’s going to be like FF14 style pvp my time here is done there is no more War in Warcraft.

Honestly I don’t want to play a copy paste FF14 clone.

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DF fails and MS cleans house with the dev team.

That is a great way to define failure.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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Not really. A lot more people will quit for good then, but even if the most rational people stay away in the end… I think there are still tons of people who are trapped in some kind of sunk cost fallacy and don’t want to leave, even if they’re not having that much fun.
Then there is another group who still have fun. And then there’s the last group who seem like a cult sometimes and defend literally anything Blizzard does, those would never quit. Even when Blizzard decided to scrap dungeons and raids and delete everyone’s gold.

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