If Collector's Edition owners get their pets, then let us have Murky

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If definitely has a “favorite child syndrome” thing to it and it feels unfair.

I’m not trying to have the vanilla CE pets removed from their owners because i do think they should be rewarded for loyalty, but so should Murky owners.

Why put vanilla CE pets in, but tell Murky owners they are unworthy when BOTH are iconic vanilla pets? You could argue Murky is THE iconic vanilla pet.

Their silence is starting to become aggravating, they had to have seen this thread 10 times by now and there are dozens more like it (and there will be more until it’s answered). Why not just come out and say “Murky is in for Murky owners” as well, or just say “No”?

The silence is the worst part.

The vanilla CE pets are in, Murky should be as well. Otherwise, it’s favorite child syndrome and reeks of favoritism.

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Which is why the answers is for Blizzard to go back on their decision. It is unfair. It would also be unfair if they added Murky, but not any of the other limited time rewards to the game, of which their are many.

It’s also unfair to give out additional rewards to people who already were rewarded in retail with their limited time pets/mounts/tabards etc. The reward for getting the CE was a pet in the original version of WoW. Giving them out again in Classic is adding an additional reward to the CE long after it was released.

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the thing about those “other limited time rewards” is none of them were a part of vanilla WoW.

Murky was. Both Murky and Vanilla CE pets were in vanilla, are the iconic vanilla pets, and they are not comparable to later items added.

Loyalty should be rewarded, the vanilla CE pets got in and i don’t want them removed for they deserve to be rewarded for loyalty (put your own greed aside here) but Murky deserves to be in just as much as you, i, or the vanilla CE pets.

Murky is an iconic part of vanilla

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Not true, there was the Test of Honor, as well as the original opening of AQ both of which gave limited time rewards. I’m also thinking long term, BC is very likely on the table, in which case you also have Spirit of Competition, other Blizzcons, Asia only rewards etc.

I definitely feel it’s more greedy to ask to be given more rewards than what you were originally given at the expense of everyone else who is going to play Classic. Obviously people who have these pets are in the minority, and giving them additional rewards would be taking away equal footing from the majority, as well as continuing to heap rewards on the same set of people because they paid Blizzard some extra money.

Loyalty isn’t measured in dollars. You can not afford the collectors editions and still have played since Vanilla, and still believe in Blizzard and want to buy their games. There’s plenty of people who are just buying stuff for the rewards who don’t care about Blizzard the company.

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The AQ opening stuff will be handled during AQ. Also, the TBC CE items will likely be rewarded to it’s owners when the time comes if it does.

As for future blizzcon items, release them when they came out. If blizzcon item X came out in expansion X, put it in. Why the heck not? I love my Grunty and if WOTLK servers were out, i’d want him.

I’ve always wanted the polar bear blizzcon mount, but i don’t want given away to me and others just because i selfishly want it. I didn’t earn it. Limited time awards are limited time awards.

You are simply demanding what you do not have, and if you can’t have it “No one should”. You are displaying a very childish attitude, no offense. Seriously, you are saying “if i can’t have it, you shouldn’t either” even though we Murky owners EARNED it by supporting them since 05 and longer than you. If you supported them in 05 and went to blizzcon, you’d have it too. Hell, if you wanted it bad enough you could get it third party. Quit trying to deprive others of what we ALREADY have for childish greed.

Loyalty is measured in both dollars AND time. That is exactly HOW loyalty is rewarded in business and gaming. It always has, and it always will. Otherwise, all blizzcon items all time would be on the Bnet store. They are simply LOYALTY rewards.

You are wrong on this issue bud, period. I get you want them, hell i want the vanilla CE pets and polar bear mount; but i didn’t invest the time or money into them and thus, do NOT deserve them.

Fact is, the precedent was set the minute the vanilla CE pets were included. At that moment, Murky should be put into classic too. Why not? Who does it hurt to include the vanilla CE pets or Murky in classic? Do you know how RARE it is to even see either in game?

Is it really going to bother you that badly if one person per server has a pet you don’t?

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@Azgoroth, you are legit complaining about like 1 in a million players.

Why does it bother you that badly if Murky or the vanilla CE pets are included? You will be lucky to see either in your lifetime of WoW, they are like unicorns.

Does it really bother you so badly that loyalty is rewarded long term, and people have things you don’t?

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Let’s not resort to name calling. You’re trying to keep your rewards even though this is a new game, and you had no idea Classic was going to be a thing when you received it. Elitism isn’t going to keep people subbed. That’s how the game ends up with just the few people who’ve collected everything and every one else leaving because the rewards they want to obtain aren’t available.

I personally think that limited time rewards are always bad. Games that are unwinnable aren’t fun, as are games were you’re missing content because you didn’t pay more money or win some contest. I dislike preorder bonuses for this reason. People should have access to the full content of the game, and if people want to collect every grey rock because it makes them happy they should be able to do so. WoW is fundamentally about collecting rewards so I see no problem with that.

Loyalty is intrinsic. You are either loyal to something or you are not. If I’m rich and spend 10k on an account with everything unlocked that doesn’t make me more loyal than the person that spent years doing the unlocking.

You also didn’t earn Murky in Classic. It’s a different game. You’re asking Blizzard to give it to you because you saw them extend a reward to another group of people. You earned Murky in retail and have gotten to enjoy him in that game.

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We are just not going to see eye to eye on this, we can agree to disagree. I wasn’t calling you a child my friend, i was saying that is a very childish attitude of “if i can’t have it, no one should”. It simply just is.

The moment the vanilla CE pets were added; Murky deserves to be in. Loyalty is shown via time, and money (trips) to blizzcon or over time.

If you want to spend 10k on a vanilla CE; doesn’t that make you more loyal than me who won’t and shouldn’t you be rewarded? That’s kinda how the world works.

Does it really bother you that others have those pets and you don’t? Why play retail then?

We aren’t going to see eye to eye, and that’s fine. I hope you have a good day, but i think you are COMPLETELY wrong. You should reward older players, and clearly they feel the same way (hence the vanilla CE pets included) and Murky should be included as well.

There are dozens of threads about this, and there will be more until Blizz comes out and says something.

like i told you last night, if the vanilla CE pets were left out i’d understand it all as a clean slate thing, but when loyal players A gets rewarded, and B players told to kick rocks (even though both were equally iconic parts of said vanilla game) it creates a favorite child syndrome and doesn’t feel good at all.

Murky deserves to be includes. Period.

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Oh really? a beta? was it for BC?

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yea. and grunty i think was sc2 in 09?

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really? would make sense I guess, interesting stuff, did not know/remember reading that you also got into a beta with those.

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Murky was definitely TBC beta. Grunty, i’m only like 90% sure was SC2 i think?

yeah most of the blizzcon items of the 00’s and even to this day come with some kinda beta (last year had the wow classic beta)

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I had thought SC2 was older than that, but i guess not, but yah a beta from Grunty would have made sense,.edit—duh, not Wrath, i was putting Grunty in 07, did not even realize you said the real date above. so SC

my quote is from 07 not 09

StarCraft II was available for play, as single player or 2v2 as Terran or Protoss.[10][11] Much of the game was revealed and explained as well as Q&A with attendees. The Zerg race was, however, not unveiled at that time.[12] The second expansion to World of Warcraft , titled Wrath of the Lich King , was officially announced and it was available to play.[13]

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I openly admit i’m fuzzy on the 09 Grunty beta. I wasn’t 100% sure, but felt confident it was SC2 beta. I might be wrong though.

05 was def TBC beta tho

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it makes sense since it released in '10.

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Yeah. i do admit i was fuzzy on the second of the beta’s.

Regardless, Blizzard, end the silence and give Murky to owners in Classic WoW too. You already did this for the vanilla CE, why leave Murky out when he is THE iconic vanilla pet?

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hello, i would also like my pets.

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If you have the vanilla CE pets, or Murky… i’m all supportive of it!

If you’re selfishly asking for something like TCG pets, or pets that you have on live… i won’t support that.

Vanilla CE pets and Murky are two exceptions, that should be rewarded as a way of saying “thank you” to their most loyal, and oldest customers.

#ClassicMurky

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I made this thread the day I found out that the CE pets were being added… and that is the reason I made this thread. If the CE pets were not added I would not have said anything.

The fact that the CE pets are being added for their original owners is the reason Murky should be added. If only the CE pets are added, then it is simply Blizzard picking and choosing with no clear-cut rule. There needs to be a clear cut rule: either all are added or none. Picking and choosing which to allow creates confusion and opens the door for misinterpretation.

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This is absolutely true. Well said, my friend.

#ClassicMurky

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