If cata aint classic, wrath never were classic either

the real gap from styles goes into tbc to wrath
if you wanna say tbc and prior are classic, it at least has some truth in it given it has a much more archaic and somewhat flavourish style that can be respected
but wrath man, for real, it is literally a generic version of cata
everything feels the same with 2 extra buttons between those 2 and more content

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Every version after Era is basically one form of retail or another.

Vanilla is bis.

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i can give some credit to that pov, at least have a standpoint
saying cata and wrath are any different is a stupid lie

For me it is that from tbc onwards it feels like you are playing a spec more than a class.

Whereas in vanilla you are playing a class.

The limitations are the feature

No vanilla raids were more preparation than skill with meme specs not being included much, community was needed as the world buff and consume prep was essential.

Tbc fixed the meme specs and put raids into more mechanics while keeping simple rotations but having issues with raid comp math but losing some prep as the number of potions was reduced to 1-2. The raids did not have the same level of prep but the atunements meant well you had a sense that all players had basic skill level. Though the meme specs now had a spot, party wide buffs limited who could get a raid spot.

That was fixed in wrath which was a classic and well it had most problems fixed and had both easy and hard modes for many raids. Cata was a downgrade plain, and well it furthered the homogenization of classes, and really didn’t live up to wrath nor did it fix any problems in wrath.

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This right here. Great post.

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thats the most delusional thing ever read
grats

i have every cleaver in the game and played them to at least 2400 cr and they all feel the same they did in wrath
if anything, with more uniqueness and depth
dont force it, its just a disgusting lie

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Lol world buffs are not “essential”, the classic community is just aids.

We cleared raids (especially MC/BWL) with meme specs and without world buffs all the time back in vanilla. Heck, I was elemental until AQ.

prove me wrong idiot. Your idiotic short bus word salid proves nothing.

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classes have same rotations with 1-2 extra buttons
same defensive and offensive cooldowns with 1-2 additions at best
same difficulty level on encounters
same length of overall work
its literally an extra patch of wrath
you just spewed a few stupidity points and its hard to tell deaf ears how music sounds like

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Vanilla was a steaming pile of trash tbh. The hardest thing about it was trying not to be the next episode of Law & Order: Special Victims because you happened to pull 2 too many mobs while questing

This is the biggest cope I’ve read. If you’re reading this and liking it I’m sure your cognitive dissonance is working over time.

No. Wrath made everything homogeneous. Wrath gave everyone else everyone’s else’s junk. Wrath obliterated sense of community, class and world immersion.

Wrath is where the game died as a sandbox and became a theme park.

You are an outsider trying to force your way into a community by changing your last name and putting up some “born native” signs.

No one buys it, you will forever be wrath babies. Wrath is cata. Stop coping.

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Nailed it buddy

ah yes, meme specs

or in other words everything that isnt arms war, prot war, rogue, frost mage, and healers

Three of the classes you listed don’t use those specs. What’s wrong with you?

Ahh yes the total pve domination of…prot warriors, arms warriors and …frost mages.

What patch are we on? Arms? Is MS doing 400%? Wildin out.

wrath is where the game became attractive to an audience other than unemployed boomoids

wow would have fallen into the pits with every other “old school mmo” if sensible QoL and innovation didnt take place and the fact wow is still alive enough to have massively populated servers across like 5 different game modes 25 years later is extremely impressive

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Stop. I’m not attacking it, I’m stating a fact. There’s nothing wrong with different versions of the game. I didn’t show my wife wow tell cata for a reason, it’s not an approachable game as someone with no community or background.

Cata is a video game, not a sandbox. Some people don’t like that but I don’t see why we can’t have both to appease everyone.

And come on, just as many 13-22 year olds played vanilla as 50 year old perma raiding boomers. C19 without a doubt proved that since they all came back.

i dont think its possible to get the feeling back that we had when original vanilla / tbc was out

the fact the game has been solved for 25 years and the wealth of information you’re able to access on the internet has exploded beyond any magnitude of what we had back in 2004 means every player in every version of classic wow thinks theyre the main character and is gonna be the #1 parselord of all time which leads to endless toxic degeneracy and loss of immersion in almost every vein of the game

i think vanilla was fun for a few months but as real humans started leaving and the toxic sludgefiends started concentrating into the playerbase more and more, i think everything ended up being insufferable for mostly anyone who’s preferred form of content involved interacting with the playerbase in any way

thats my experience anyway

I don’t think it has anything to do with that. It’s all about the changes in the technology. In the original game much of the interaction occurred with typing in guild chat, or lfg chat, or whispers etc. The quality of Teamspeak etc. and the internet connections at the time wasn’t great so were mostly used only for raids. Now days the internet has improved so much and discord is so good that almost no one types much to interact with other players. If you get onto discord there was lots of interaction. If you didn’t it seemed like no one was interacting.

proof not accepted. You didn’t prove anything just make up stupid crap.

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