If BGs are going to reward premades pubstombing PUGs

5 man premades in 10 mans is OP, 5 man premades in 15+ is no big deal!

I love it. Google translate was just telling me “WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.” Maybe his accent was heavy and I misheard him.

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Hence why no gear or match making. So you can argue either way.

But anyways since CRBGs are out you can just Afk and account share to r13 or r14 without a premade. So why does this even matter lol

I personally can’t wait to roll bgs with my friends on our twinked out toons. It’s one of the things I loved about vanilla!

It has been like this since launch and won’t change now, why i rolled alliance this time around

Thanks for that. Now I have whisky all over my keyboard, from shooting out of my nose.

Well what would be the difference between a premade and a PUG? Organization? Coordination? Comms?

Sounds like “skill” to me. At least in the MMO sense.

Yeah, let’s force PvPers to get all their rewards from PvEing, sounds like a fun game.

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Works fine for me.

Plus that is going to be the norm in a few months anyways. Unless you would like to go out on a limb and claim pvp blues can compete with Naxx gear?

So you want queues to be longer?

Haha, when pugs get honor it is “gaming the system”, because only you deserve rewards, and you deserve more than you’re getting.

How about, when all the pugs stop queuing you have no one to play against and come whining to the forums, telling blizzard to fix it for you?

Good… it will help with horde queues

It’s terrible game design, but it’s a huge part of vanilla, so it’s here to stay unfortunately.

Look, you n I don’t agree much but you poor poor bas^^… whiskey out the nose!? That is a burn I never hope to feel :frowning:

I’m so glad the world doesn’t revolve around you.

I think this is an aspect that people don’t understand about Classic / Vanilla.

99% of the PvP’rs will never see rank 13 / 14. You have to raid to compete in PvP, this will become crystal clear once BWL goes live.

It should also be noted, those who do reach R 13 / 14 tend to vanish from the game very quickly.

Sorry to say, but you quitting is part of the algorithm because Blizzard will not change this, and I am a bit surprised so many people think forum complaints and threats to quit will have any impact – especially calls for sweeping design changes.

The profit was substantial and they also know that a large portion of players knew what they signed up for, and will stick around.

Well this seems like an unnecessarily petty and inaccurate response.

Yes it is, because grouping is supposed to reward more than solo play. You dont expect to get better rewards from questing than from 5 mans or raids do you?

And if the PUGs all quit, then that actually makes ranking easier or at least the same, since all the OTHER horde have to face the same alliance premades. Except the premades STILL have a better chance to win.

So PUGs threatening to quit is the most empty of threats

I completely agree with the poster. Allowing premades to just stomp pugs over and over and over again destroys classic pvp in my opinion and should be totally prohibited. This was one of the best changes in modern WoW when it was implemented. It is a total waste of time to queue up a PUG and then be basically automatically defeated by a team of people who are hand selected by the group organizers and already in discord. The comparison would be how completely stupid a local adult soccer league would be if the only team they could ever play against was Germany’s world cup team. No one would participate because it would be completely unfair and unbalanced. Wow classic players should be allowed to form premades, but they should be forced to fight other premades, who will be hand selected and in discord potentially like they are. I should also have the ability to queue up my PUG battleground matches and fight other PUGs in fair gameplay–not against premades where we simply automatically lose and have no fun at all because we just get stomped.

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