How was the Classic team effected? I mean nothing is ever in stone until Blizzard straight up says they are. From what I have been able to tell so far is that the Classic team has been mostly unaffected. I could have bad info. either way I won’t believe anything until Blizz says yes/no.
The team of reps and csrs assigned to work classic needs to GROW if its going to change from what they told us they were going to do. Mass layoffs is moving the staff in the wrong direction. Even if they somehow manage to dodge 100% of the layoffs, at best the status quo remains the same with loot trading and RCR in the game as they said it was.
On my phone, can’t read article. Is it actual layoffs or more of the “career crossroads” program where they offer people money to leave?
I’m fine as long as the Classic team is fine. Maybe layoffs can free up money for the classic team?
That’s really really not how it works. When a company announces to the market that they are cutting hundreds and hundreds of jobs, they are doing so in order to cut spending. Not to … rearrange spending. They want less money outgoing period.
Most companies that do this also magically expect revenue and profits to stay the same or increase despite this as well. Sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn’t, but it never means that anyone can expect a windfall in their departments. It always typically means everyone tightening their belts as a company tries to generate more, from less.
Yes. Cutting overhead could increase profit margins. It will also decrease production.
It’s more like a gamble that the saved wages are worth more than the lost production. I’m this case, they are likely correct.
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Jesus H christ, with the authoritarians, you people i swear to god are insane, just, just start a revolution already if you’re so damn held down by the man don’t piss and moan about it on a damned ‘‘discussion’’ forum for a damned video game gods get off your rear ends and ‘‘do something’’ about it melodrama and nonsense political diatribe that’s all your lives are.
That quote looks strange, not directed at you Idun.
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That was a recap of the thread.
Or blizz can just punish these offenders who are abusing it. Which I might add the only documented case seen here of someone being punished was a “professional” OW player.
You guys keep saying rampant abuse but where is it?
I’m not saying it can’t happen or that it’s not happening but if it’s as bad as you’re trying to make it out blizz would address it.
False flag seems to be abused more on the forums than in game.
Yea I don’t watch Azmonbald. Sounds like he got reported by a massive amount of people at once.
Yea he verified there is an auto squelch just like blizz said. Good job. Lol.
As a responsible member of the community he does it a great diservice by fear mongering a system and promoting it’s abuse. GG.
The rest of what you said about cost/manpower we already know too. It’s also why if this was the problem
and being abused as you’re trying to say it is.
Blizz would be dropping the ban hammer and reiterating what is clearly written in the CoC. Don’t abuse the system.
Now this is where you ask how do you tell when someone is abusing the system.
Statistics. That’s right blizz can see how often you use the flagging system.
Blizz can see the circumstances of those flags. You can draw a conclusion when you see over use of the system.
Also we don’t know what blizz does on the backend of this. For all we know they may be just collecting data to do a blizz ban wave. That’s just it though. We don’t know for sure and blizz will not release details.
Or it’s the land of internet trolls who want to be able to say whatever they want with no penalties.
From the way this topic was presented to the shift in tone when actual facts were found you can see that. That’s why this went from “It will destroy grouping in classic” right back to “use ignore thin skin”!
Yea. That really sounds like some are concerned for the game. /sarcasm
I know there are those who were caught right up in this who are genuinely concerned for classic but what if effects in classic isn’t even what they were lead to believe…
There was a post linked to a statement in CS. Seems blizz thinks saying adding absolute specifics will lead to even more rule-lawyering. Might wanna take that up with them. /shrug
Players help determine this because everyone has a voice here in blizzland.
It’s not hard. Don’t act a fool. You won’t have many issues.
Edit:spelling and clarification. Ugh I quoted quotes from a requote. Gimme a minute here. Lol
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I haven’t seen “rampant abuse” mentioned all that often, however many of us have an issue with ANY abuse. 1 case is too many in my opinion because it is clearly avoidable punishment of an innocent player.
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You may not have seen those specific words used but the tone of this is quite clear across everyone of these threads and idk how many misinformed streamer vids.
Well then since it’s not “rampant abuse” it makes it easier for blizz to address it in a case by case basis as well.
So why’s everyone so up in arms again?
Guess what. Blizz and some players feel one racist joke is too many. Especially when more than 1 person thinks so.
Which is also clearly avoidable (before we even get to a temporary squelch or an actual punishment) by not bringing real world issues into a fantasy world.
You guys have repeatedly defeated your own arguments in this debate.
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Has no affect on me whatsoever.
I’ve said it. I keep saying it. R-Click / Ignore is the best solution. No GM’s needed. Community polices itself. Being ignored just diminishes the offender’s ability to make / be invited to groups. Be enough of a weed, and you’ll be odd man out. Tough luck pal. Try a new toon, and maybe learn not to be a ________ck.
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I wouldn’t flinch at this at all. Most of these of layoffs from the failure of their attempt to push esports on games like hearthstone and hots. Plus you have to remember they just split up with bungie on destiny and that game is also on life support and they need to cut overhead on this department as well.
People who work or have worked at Blizzard told me that they expect Tuesday’s layoffs to be primarily in non-game-development departments, such as publishing, marketing, and sales. Some of those jobs and roles may then fall to Activision proper, further reducing Blizzard’s autonomy.
Activision, meanwhile, has also been struggling. Last year’s Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 was successful, one of 2018’s best-selling games according to NPD data, but the publisher lost one of its major franchises after Destiny 2 's Forsaken expansion failed to meet Activision’s lofty expectations. In January, developer Bungie announced that it was parting ways with Activision and ending its development contract early, putting the bow on a long-doomed relationship. Bungie would hang onto the Destiny franchise as a result.
The business angle is that Activision is now missing one of its biggest tentpoles, but the human angle is that the split leaves people in danger of losing their jobs. Activision employed an entire team full of Destiny support staff—PR, marketing, social media, business, and so on—who now have no work. Two people close to the company told me that there have been a few opportunities for those former Destiny staff to move to other teams, but those opportunities are limited, and members of that department are perhaps the most worried about their job security.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-employees-brace-for-massive-layoffs-1832488999/amp
I don’t know about you guys but I for one am looking forward to having a ban squad especially when I am trying to get up to Field Marshal. Maybe even ban the person who is doing the scarab mallet. That will not be game breaking in the least! In original WoW people would report others and those people would get banned after being REVIEWED. Giving banning power to the players could seem like a good idea but in reality you could just be giving the child quivering in his safe space more power to do harm than he would be able to use responsibly. I remember delivering justice on league of legends and this one guy got reported for calling one of his teammates an idiot. I for one thought it was ridiculous that I was even having to review it. But, that is a part of society, imbeciles constantly trying to sue others and often times judges throwing those lawsuits out of court.
Why do you insist that we need guild banks to address what you call an “exploitable system” (despite the fact that there is no exploit), yet you insist that Blizzard implement a truly exploitable system with right click report tied to an auto squelch?
We’ve already seen video evidence of that system being exploited and abused.
I have a solid streamer source that has proof that they literally send blizzard employees to offenders homes who punch them in the face and kick their dogs.
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Well if classic doesn’t get guild banks I’ll make ya up some video evidence of the gbank exploit so you can see it.
Isn’t that that what Asminhairline did?
YOu cannot get banned from reports , if it is happened there likely were other factors.
well to be honest, you trade one exploit for another, as you can still exploit GBs.
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And swap out all their pop with no-sugar, no-caffeine types.
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