Idea to appeal both sides of M+ leavers

Make the in-game interface allow players to review your past few keys. Lets say 5 or 10.
Might look something like this:

+7 Plaguefall (21:32) [Completed, Timed]
+12 Sanguine Depths (3:22) [Left Group, Incompleted]
+9 Tirna Scithe (28:41) [Completed, Timed]
+17 Dread Wake (1:10) [Left Group, Incompleted]

and so on.
You can see that this guy in my example seems to run sub 10 keys just fine and time them, but then joins 10+ keys and trolls or ragequits after only a few minutes, not at all nearly time to determine if a key is wasted.

You see this guy queue and briefly review his record of recent keys and realize he’s a troll that throws keys on purpose to grief people, you don’t group with him. Nothing preventing people from grouping with him, nothing preventing him from even doing keys, but if you accepted this guy in your +15 and he left after 5 minutes, you can only blame yourself.

So in your scenario it only shows if they left group? So what determines this, the first person to leave? the first 2? everyone in the party? If its the first person you just run into the hostage situation yet again and if its everyone then everyone is still punished for 1 persons decision.

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Obviously I didn’t think about that. As many details as possible would be provided. It could include if they were the first person to leave the group or the 2nd, 4th, last etc.

edit:
Serious question though, why not just add to my suggestion and amend what info is given instead of treating my suggestion like it’s the live product and itself flawed? lol

“hey make sure to add that they were the first, second, third, etc person to leave the group too so we could know if they were the leaver and not someone else.”

So I rate your feedback of my suggestion a 10/10 for reminding me to add something, but 0/10 for acting like my idea was perfect and infallible and needed no modification itself.

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How about instead of left group, it was group broke up, in complete, and have it list if they were the key holder?

Eh
I actually don’t know why I care or give feedback honestly, or why anyone does. The fact the people have been openly vocal about specifically what they want for literally years and then we get dragon people should be a sign blizzard do no listen to players at all. Tempted to just delete this post because really the more I think about it the more I realize I really don’t care that much.

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Have dungeon replays like how there are match replays in other games. I would 100% tune into random groups running as a spectator.

Thing is people HAVE bee asking for playable dragons or a dragon based race, maybe not as long as other races, but attitudes like yorus seemed to be summed up by “Blizzard is not listening to me or ones like me, so they must not be listening to anyone”.

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What happens to players who are pushing high keys where things happen and it was a group decision to call it. This happens quiet often and no one in the group bats an eye. They say gg or rip key. With a system like yours in place, those players now look bad even though they might not have been the reason the key failed.

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How do you determine left group, and last person in group?

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That’s the thing you can’t unless you see / know how the run went and who left when.

What about the players who don’t leave the group, but simply alt+f4?

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Ah yeah that’s true cause then it wouldn’t show as a leave group.

Lol, I’ve definitely seen more people “disconnect” than actually rage quit and hearth out.

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Could always just remove keys from the equation entirely and leave Mythic+ as a vertical progression based extension of the dungeon system.

It seems to me like people get stressed out because the key is wasted when someone has to leave the dungeon and they have to wait until they get another key to try again.

it already is?

Here’s my idea.

They don’t currently keep track of who leaves keys. But if the data for being the first to leave a group was collected, and presented, it should be on a percentage basis. If a typical player left 5% of groups and the player who has applied left 50%, you’d choose that first one, right?

But only if a group leader’s success rate is visible to potential applicants. If typical failure rate is 5%, and this guy has a 50% failure rate, he’s his own problem, and it wouldn’t be fair to potential applicants to keep that information from them.

Yes, it already is. Reading the entire sentence is important.

yeah, thats my bad, havent had coffee yet.

Show me one example of literally anyone asking for a dragon based playable race and not something that was like 1 month before the announcement. Something from YEARS ago like can be said about tinker, san’layn, or ogres.

Even if there are “so many I can’t count” that’s fine. I am not asking for “so many” I just want one. If you can find ONE example from at least a month ago or longer I will apologize and shut up.

We see this sort of increased forum opinion out of the blue often on what in retrospect turns out to be something that was already decided but yet to be announced.