I mean high level pvp is basically pretty scripted.
They do X so I counter with Y.
ICC buff can come out when Ruby Sanctum is released, that makes sense since the gear that drops there is on equivalent and better than ICC loot
next year sometime, maybe end of January ish
do you think progress guild was progressing icc on the day icc got released in classic?
do you think any guild who already cleared 12/12hc was progressing icc when it got released on classic?
Hell No.
OK OK you speak of the people who never been in icc and play to progress atm? who prevented them from doing that if they play to have fair progress? they can disable the buff. āyouāll say they wonātā then they donāt want to progress by your rules so who are you to force them progress by your own rules?
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Failrogue mumbles incoherently.
You are confused.
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And thatās a problem because?
Itās just a game.
I totally link my logs to my CV.
None of this changes the fact Wrath Classic is a re-run.
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you just donāt want to acknowledge logic
but heyā¦the buff is coming, people are happy 
& youāre mad for no reason beside that you failed to force everyone to play the game the way you want them to play it.
and iāll repeat shadows words
like it or notā¦ thatās true fact.
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Have you considered turning the buff off then? Itās confirmed to be optional.
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Issue with that is that all 24 other players would also want to turn it off.
āHello raid team. Letās turn off the buff so we can progress without it.ā
And then you have someone like shadow in your raidā¦
Elune have mercy, I actually agree with Bloomsday for once.
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Why would you raid with someone like that?
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So I guess all of WarcraftLogs is a lie, then?
Fun fact, people can make serious progression out of whatever they want.
There is no set purpose to playing any game. It is whatever you want it to be.
People wanted to progress awhile, that choice is being removed for them. Again.
Thereās how many months until Cata? Most of a year? Rushing the buff āso everyone can see all content in timeā is a crazy excuse. The happiest people right now are those who are too afraid or too impatient to actually work at the mechanics. Where is the sense of accomplishment in needing nerfed content?
BTW what is the result of trivializing content early? It actually makes attrition faster.
So they will need to roll another gimmick to keep people playing. Ruby Sanctum likely a month out. Cata rushed to 3 months. Etc.
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But Iām not in your raid, so you donāt need to worry about me.
I said someone like youā¦ afraid of progression and wants everything handed to them
Iām not afraid of progression. In fact, Iāve already accomplished far more in Wrath Classic then I ever did in OG Wrath.
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most of pvp gameplay is entirely scripted, weāve all played the same match ups vs the same players like 200 times, there are literally strategy guides for every meta comp vs every other meta comp, dpr/rogue vs warr/pala all play the same way for example only in wrath they dodge the warr/pala they canāt beat (double human with shadowmourne and dbw) and use a weakaura to check if they are online before they queue, big keks pvp btw
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