discouraged when I get to to il 619, so M plus groups too stressful to pug into 8s, pushin my own key to 8 feels too stressful, mythic raiding i dont even wanna, like and cant even get good crafted gear unless I get 90 gilded crests, oh yeah that is right, gilded crests too stressful to get cuz the only way i can get them is delve spamming/m plus 8s where the morale to run mythics is extremely low/and mythic raiding… blah i just feel like my wow life is over
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Only the first season, its always the hardest. As stats go up to ridiculous numbers with secondary stats hitting crazy milestones it can make what used to be high content trivial.
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Well yeah, ilvl correlates roughly with content difficulty and there’s no solo content on par with higher ilvl than 619.
Without delves you’d have been stuck at roughly 606.
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Sounds like you have arrived at your end game journey. You now have three options.
- Make alts and keep farming the content you have been for the fun of it, or to be with likeminded friends online.
- Get good
- Quit
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You’re not alone, seen others on the forum that feel the way you do.
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8s are less stressful now with the buffs to Peril. You can have 7 free deaths before it kicks in.
Two possibilities:
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you’ve built up the difficulty in your mind and it causes you to worry you’re not good enough. And you need to just push through and try it to realize it’s not that bad.
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you’re not ready skill wise for a +8 and you know it. So you worry that you will not perform well and people will be mad at you so you avoid it.
Either way hitting a target dummy to make sure your dps and rotation are tight after reviewing a guide for rotation and gearing choices to build confidence. Then commit to doing a +8 key without expectation and with a learning mindset. Pass or fail the key and you can learn.
I got 3k on my bdk in past seasons and I joined a +3 on her and got slapped by a pack. The group disbanded and I got called trash. It was annoying but I shrugged and times the next +3 I got into.
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You choosing to not do higher keys/raiding means you hit your wall sooner.
You shouldn’t be able to get gear from content you refuse to do.
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Im having a blast, I crafted by 3rd 636 yesterday!
I’ve got 4 80s farming delves. It’s quite fun. Doing the same content on a resto druid, Frost mage, prot warrior and sub rogue is very interesting. I might level my warlock next.
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OP feels like a mild troll but oh well.
I get why folks are mandating ~620 for 8 and higher but come on. I’m sitting at 605 myself and healing 6’s isn’t even remotely a challenge (Unless the group sucks). Y’all are just being downright overkill with this crap.
This might sound like a hot take – but I am actually finding +8’s to be easier than +4’s if you’re PUGing. They’re harder to get into groups for… but +8’s with people who pull their own weight are actually really easy. Things die super fast, people interrupt, tanks generally are pretty experienced.
Most people PUGing +4’s are either still learning, or they’re just messing around. Makes the dungeons way harder than they need to be. People running 8’s are just starting to take things more seriously… and it makes a huge difference.
People are more selective about who they invite, and the groups either absolutely destroy the dungeon or they fall apart immediately… and there has been almost zero in between.
Literally did half a world tour of +8’s last night on this toon with 3/5 PUGs and the dungeons we were successful in – we absolutely smashed. It wasn’t even remotely sweaty. Everyone just did what they were supposed to do and the dungeons fell over.
Just keep at it. Also – it’s okay to just farm the keys you can do comfortably. Personally even if I could only do 6’s, I’d keep farming 6’s cause I enjoy them. The gear progression is nice and all, but the real carrot on the stick is just having fun in the game.
If you like smashing +2’s do that. If you like smashing +4’s do that. Don’t need to be getting better gear to have fun.
At least thats how I look at it anyways.
Progression isn’t perfect in WoW, honestly it needs a lot of work. But chasing a carrot doesn’t really matter if you don’t like carrots. Figure out if you like the actual carrot, or if you just like the chase.
Cause if you just like the chase, you can always make a new toon and start the chase to 619 all again. That’s fun too.
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I think the “get good” part is uncalled for, just because people choose not to do group content, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are bad, I’m also sitting at 619 because I’m happy with Delves being my end game, i wouldn’t have completed all of the hard Delve achievements if i were a bad player, i just tend to avoid group content, particularly super challenging and/or timed content because it really stresses me out lol
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On the other hand, you don’t need better-than-619 if you don’t plan on doing non-LFR Raiding or M+ higher than 7.
But I get it, having a “gear goal” is important to a lot of people (myself included) and it’s no fun to just give up and say, “whelp, gear’s good enough, guess I’m pretty much done 'til next season.”
Delves are a different beast entirely to M+. I basically ignored delves the moment I could start getting better gear from dungeons/raids but I didn’t immediately jump into 8’s. I had to work my way up and yeah I skipped a tier here or there but for the most part it was clearing 2’s all the way through to 11’s where I’m at now
As a user that replied before me said this is an unwarranted comment. A person could be the best player in the game and just have really bad luck with groups because of play times or where they live in the world and having really bad latency to the groups they can find.
I might not be “as good” as I was 30 years ago when I first started playing online games, or 40 years ago when I started hardcore gaming on my computer but that doesn’t mean my skills have diminished more than my recent finger amputations 11 months ago. I learn, I adapt and do the best I can under the circumstance.
I choose not to get into mythic content because I can’t learn it, but because my hand won’t allow me to do the things that it used to and make the chance of beating a + in time more difficult for everyone involved. So, I choose to spare other people’s fun by not having my own fun in content that would be a bit more challenging then delves and LFR content.
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You may not have heard of adaptive devices/controllers and such, but there’s a consumer product that i have seen around a bit called a “Stinkypad” (awful name lol), it allows you to bind abilities/keys to the device, it’s basically like having a big controller pad under your feet so you can push down one way for interrupts, another way for your cooldowns or something, just put 4 of your regularly used spells onto your feet so your hands can be freed up for movement, i hope you’re doing ok otherwise!
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Working as intended. At 619 you outgear the content that offers gilded crests.
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It’s fine to hit a wall. You are not meant to be able to get the highest ilvl stuff without doing harder content.
But Blizzard really dropped the ball by making Champ Track and Hero Track gear be effectively the same gear for people who can’t or won’t farm M+8 or higher. There should be a CLEAR distinction there and there’s just not, so shooting for Hero Track gear seems pointless.
ilvl upgrades are fine but the weird overlap on crests and the lack of baseline distinction between specifically these 2 tracks is effectively deleting the relevance of an entire section of the game for a large amount of players.
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Make alts or get better. Congrats, you beat the content you’re willing to do on this patch.