I don’t like Grimdark. Never saw the appeal of art that purposefully is trying to hurt my feelings all the time. I prefer that it’s Disney and Power Rangers-esque actually.
Or maybe more serious/somber, and sad- but not tryhard grimdark projecting your sexual abuses onto others sad. Ew. I wouldn’t mind story and scenery being more serious and darker and somber (Xal’atath is camp lol) but don’t be edgy either or copy off Game of Thrones.
Agreed. Toony CAN be fun. I LOVE team fortress 2, and they’re anything but serious. But too much is… too much. I don’t want any Warhammer 40K kind of grimdark, but like, a bit more wouldn’t hurt. It’s clear they’re trying to make everything super family friendly to appeal to the Twitter hordes, but man, it sucks.
These have come up more and more and well…I just feel like we have one person really pushing for this honestly. We really account wide something so we can tell how this is going.
You know that you can skin and eat objectively sapient people right? That the world for the longest time was INEVITABLY going to fall to the might of rotting, hungering gods? That we recently learned that the Light is also a super evil force that brings infinite suffering to countless worlds and that it’s basically just the other facet of the Void?
its easy bait thats why
I honestly think sparring Khadgar was a pathetic decision, but I haven’t played in a while so maybe they already revealed he is knaifu in disguise or something.
We already got the Maw and Torgast and zones like Korthia and Icecrown if you want that “grim dark” graphical feel.
Drustvar was kind of grim and dark. Probably one of my favorite zones too of all the expansions. But yeah, overall I wish there was more Grim-Dark going on too.
You mean Grim dawn ?? Thats a fantastic ARPG, recommend everyone to try it out
I wish WoW was more like Grim Dawn. I was just playing that the other day.
We all do 
I always felt like Warcraft was goofy back in the day. It’s story was dark, but the game was goofy. I think that is the right balance, and I don’t feel like that has strayed all that much really. If anything I feel like the comedy fell off more than the darkness. They just made it less about evil orcs and more about evil gods.
Not what the OP means at all; Grimdark is a term for fiction that is dystopian, amoral, and violent, often contrasting with the idealism of high fantasy.
Can we has more of that, please?
While interesting, I think it doesn’t need to be dark, but it doesn’t need to be light. Straddle the line in places, we’ve been served Rated E plots for a few years now, in a Rated T game rated for Blood And Gore, Crude Humor, Mild Language, Suggestive Themes, Use of Alcohol, and Violence.
Feel like we’ll never have a starting experience like the Death Knight one ever again. Where the ending literally had the sky raining down blood on the battlefield.
Threads like this only happen bc:
Ofc people are going to get bored lol
Because most of Dalaran city being destroyed wasn’t enough? Or spider people mutilating and eating each other? Or fishmen raising and enslaving dead Arathi?
Their sense of dark is very very narrow. They do not think lovecraftian nightmares from the deep, eating Arathi, killing children and enslaving them is dark enough.
Their form of dark is a metal album cover, which is fine, I do love Warhammer but there are more versions of dark than just that.
Show don’t tell is where the problem comes in. There’s a boatload of dark themes in WoW but the game can’t go too graphic with the depiction… but on the same token they don’t go too far enough most of the time. Exceptions occur.
Grimdark was literally a term made up to describe warhammer 40k. A dystopian parody of a fascistic future where everyone is the bad guy and everything sucks for everyone 100% of the time. It took, well, stole really, plot points from other universes and then turned them up to 11. I do not want WoW to turn into that.