I was wrong, RDF sucks

fam, you are playing on retail. basically an entirely different game.

More like based on everyone has their prebis. Hardly anyone is doing world tours anymore.

Why would that matter in any universe ever? Days old? Come on man, we arent all terminally online. The term necroing came from an era when serving files was expensive as the tech wasnt there. This is no longer the case.

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Because he’s doing it specifically to get people to argue. He’s literally already admitted it himself in the past. Just read the nonsense he’s saying, he’s not contributing anything to the actual topics he’s bumping and he’s effectively getting around the whole spam rule by playing the system

another pointless anti rdf post. NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

its very very simple. all you have to do is…wait for it… wait… JUST DON’T USE IT!!!.

nobody cares if you like it, dislike it, love it or hate it. Thats the beauty of having the choice to use it or not. what’s next? are you going to start posting about your new favorite meal that you want to tell us your opinion of???

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No one says a word in classic dungeon either. You have to start a conversation to get others to talk. Most of the time people do not talk in wrath dungeons.

You know there is no greed/need system in retail, right?

That isn’t how that works. If you enjoy questing then questing shouldn’t be a punishment for you just because it’s a bit slower than the alternatives. If it is, then it sounds like you don’t actually enjoy it all that much. The other possibility is that you are maximally addled with FOMO, but that rolls back around to being a you problem. Some games absolutely do pray on FOMO, but there does have to be a limit where you can be expected to control yourself to the most marginal possible degree. If you want to RP walk around then more power to you, but the maximum unmodified speed shouldn’t be reduced to the RP walk just for your sake. You should be expected to exercise the tiniest bit of self-control to be able to choose to play the way you want to play.

It is not true at all that “efficiency is efficiency”. Again, no one wants their classes to be just worse than other classes; precisely zero people want that. There are people who enjoy longer progression loops, and that demographic is conveniently highly likely to also enjoy questing. Furthermore, when the spec you want to play becomes incredibly difficult to get into content with that is other people forcing their views on you and barring you from content. If you toss questing aside because RDF spam is 10% more efficient you’re doing that entirely to yourself. Finally, even if we were to accept you’re blatantly incorrect premises, the answers to your concerns would be to buff leveling experience to be on par with dungeon spam rather than to exclude RDF.

I mean dude, you sound like a super sad person with a malfunctioning frontal lobe. So someone who enjoys whittling should throw the hobby away if they can’t churn out owl figurines at some arbitrary rate that some arbitrary person or group considers efficient? That statement of yours reflects one of the most pathetic world views I have encountered in my life.

Dragonflight is ditching personal loot for the old need/greed group loot system. Group Loot: While inside Vault of the Incarnates, Group Loot will be the only method of loot distribution. There is no option to select for yourself or your group to return to Personal Loot

Seems they think that was a mistake is some way.

Wrong.

Wrong. You literally have no idea what efficiency means.
Some classes specs are far more efficient in producing the required numbers or enhancing the performance for said numbers than others thats why they get spots easily and others don’t.

Hardcore projection eh, guess you have wierd daddy issues.

Dear lord.
You REALLY think efficiency is an opinion? LOL.

Definitely not wrong.

I’m well aware of what efficiency is. You, on the other hand, aren’t aware that being efficient is not the ultimate goal of every aspect of life. When it come to classes it is an inherent goal that they all be balanced, as no one actively wants to play a class that is just worse than other classes. When it comes to leveling, it is not always true that every player wants to reach endgame as quickly as possible above all else. It may be common, but it is not universal. Questing being less xp/hour than dungeon grinding is not the same as a class being worse than another class.

Efficiency itself is not an opinion, but what perimeters you’re going by are. Someone who can throw more planks of wood 10 yards per minute is more efficient than someone who can’t throw as many… if your goal is to throw planks of wood. If your goal is to use those planks to build a dog house then the person throwing the wood is specifically working counter to your goal, and is being wildly inefficient in actuality.

Not projection. You’ve stated that you have no self-control and are essentially enslaved by the idea of efficiency. You enjoy questing to level but apparently you’d abandon it entirely for dungeon grinding if it got you to cap a bit faster, despite you not preferring it and that playstyle seriously degrading your game experience. That is both very sad and probably means your frontal lobe is impaired in some way, since that’s what manages high level executive functions like self-control.

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no RDF please. The game feels great

Yes we need RDF to enjoy dungeon content. Because no one runs it on all the servers all the time.

Reading most of the replies to this guys opinion is like watching a dude get jumped outside of a room you’re locked in and can’t help.

Holy crap!

On Mankrik, as a Dps, wait times aren’t that bad. I transferred toons from Grobb to here and I’ll be honest I’ve seen more RP / friendly (social) people here; this is my experience and results may vary.

The 3 letter community seems to have the worst luck because they wait hours for a group and heaven forbid they have to fly to a stone. I call B.S.

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How many dungeons did you do?

This is what I experience a lot of times through LFG in classic too. Unless it’s a group that knows each other barely anything is ever said even if I try and get conversation started.

The last time I did a RDF in retail was when I started playing again in BFA after having quit in WOTLK. I joined the group and said, more or less, “How’s everyone doing?” and the only response I got was “Why are you typing? Just play” :person_shrugging:

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Yeah man, I love questing from 1 to 68 and never doing a dungeon once.

I love getting people afking in stormwind and having to summon them because they don’t wanna make the run. Which, is funnily enough what people said RDF would cause, evidently not.

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LFG is fine. Don’t really need RDF.

No one says a word outside of ‘ty’ ‘gg’ in Wrath Classic. People aren’t having some big long conversations about life and whatever. You wanted attention, you got attention, and you made up fantasy stories for that attention.

Source no one talks? I’ve farmed emblems for plate chest and shoulder, cloth chest and shoulder, mail dps for chest and shoulder, bow, Truesilver, and staff. Spare me the ‘we’re having lovely conversations in dungeons’ that’s just a straight up lie.

However, RDF may suck for YOU, that does NOT translate into it sucking for others.

I bet it is. On a megaserver.

Give it time, people will stop bothering with heroics and then nobody is gonna run them anymore. So people will need to run Heroic+ for naxx 10 gear, but people are gonna gatekeep and expect you to have heroic gear or naxx gear, but nobody will want you to get that gear.

Or if you’re levelling alts, nobody does dungeons because it’s not worth dropping what you’re doing, spending 30 minutes traveling and run it once.

Have I fed the troll enough?

I’m on eranikus. Gatekeeping isn’t real. You’re using all the buzzwords.

No i’m not trolling, if i thought the game needed RDF I would say that too. I have no attachment to this game system. It’s just not needed.

I’m sorry you think I’m trolling because I’m telling you my personal experience with no RDF. ANd it’s been great.