🔥 I want the REAL Alterac Valley

You changed Loot Trading, you can change Alterac Valley

  1. I want Korrak the Bloodrager

  2. I want the Syndicate, Wildpaw Gnolls, and Winterax Trolls

  3. I want the Landmines back

  4. I want the Air strikes to be a thing

  5. I want NPCs to be strong again

  6. I want 24 Hour Battles

  7. I want Ivus and Lokholar

I want 1.5 Alterac Valley that was the pinnacle of Fun, not the watered-down Zerg rush that was 1.12.

I don’t care about Marks of Honor or how the Elite Pvper’s want 1.12 because they get loot faster…Loot should never be important than FUN

Here is a detailed Forum post of how Alterac Valley went from a Roar to a whimper:

Here is a video explaining how Alterac Valley was changed over time (Got worse)

Classic is about reliving the Glory days of Wow.

Nothing glorious about running past the enemy faction in a speedrunning competition, may as well make 1.12 AV a dungeon for all the Pvp it has.

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I remember them… I cannot say that I was exceptionally fond of them. There were other versions between 1.5 and when they nerfed it that included almost all the components on your list…

To me it was all the NPC’s and how powerful they were, but this is very subjective on who you ask obviously…

I am in favor of a good discussion on this; I hope Blizzard will take notice and consider that the 1.12 version of AV is… not AV.

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TLDR: ‘I want…’

You finally got the name brand cereal. Sat right down in isle ‘private server,’ cried, and got the cereal. Mama and Papa caved.

Continuing to cry because a few pieces in the bag -1.12AV- aren’t exactly what you remember or want, from the last time you had name brand cereal, is undignified and sad.

Just be happy with the high quality, stable, well maintained cereal. You don’t get it often, you hardly deserve it and it will be almost 100% as delicious as you remember. And infinitely better than the private server, off brand, nasty nuggets you’ve been snacking on.

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I too want the real av. please blizzard

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You want, you want, you want.

What about what everyone else wants?

I do not want all of these things and day long AV matches.

What about what the other people who intend to play classic want?

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You can play Retail Alterac Valley which takes 10 minutes.

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That’s all it comes down to. Who wants what.

1.5 AV lasted a month or w/e. So good it was being changed within a month®

1.12 AV was/is the right choice.

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I’ll take 1.12AV.

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Blizzard is never going to give people 1.5 even if they go back to an older version. The earliest version you will ever get is the version where they changed the horde starting point.

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So you want access to a version of AV Blizzard doesn’t even have anymore?

Cool story bro.

“Classic servers will never happen because Blizzard doesn’t have the code”
Heard that one before…a lot.

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Tell me… have you WATCHED the BlizzCon 2018 panel? Have you educated yourself on this topic at all? Or are you just jumping aboard a bandwagon?

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Op wants 1.5AV, 1.6 Battle masters, 1.11 threat, 1.12 talents but all at once!

#frankenpatch

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AV is not a typical BG; that’s actually a reason why people want it back. Right now in BFA you can essentially get the 1.12 AV experience because it’s really similar even if it’s got that dumb resource mechanic. Overall it’s not much different.

AV before the massive NPC exodus and nerf was a very different thing, this is what people have been trying to explain.

Also, being in AV for a win is not the point; the point is participating in the war effort!

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At this point I’d like to see both versions available.

Give the instant gratification crowd their cereal box prizes and give those that want a long, epic battle exactly that.

Considering both existed in classic, it seems to be the best compromise.

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1.5 can be zerged. 1.12 can also last hours or day. Something to be said for player choice.

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Not with out a full 40 man pre-made… Something Blizzard specifically banned as possible in mid Vanilla before they ever Nerfed AV.

There were serveral changes in Vanilla AV before it was Nerfed into the dirt, but that’s a different story.

Most of it was terrain exploits and moving the starting gates, and tuning… Overall the whole thing stayed intact until they removed most of the NPC’s and nerfed them directly.

This same sort of technique was used in 1.3 with the original dungeons.

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I would certainly prefer it, but it’s not an absolute requirement for me to play classic.

Haven’t done Retail AV in awhile, have you?

Gosh darn it you’re right…I meant 9 minutes