I use to be classic > tbc

OK, so I know I’ve responded to a lot of these threads. I agree that AV, especially on the alliance side, is a non-fun meta and I know a lot of people who have quit ranking because of it.

Also Earthfury phase 2 world PVP was amazing. I love world PVP and I’m glad I picked this server for it. We had so many rivalries with each other. Felwood was an amazing PVP zone in phase 2 and still is my favorite PVP zone due to the amount of 1v1s and 2v2s you can get into. I spent like 40% of phase 2 there. I hearth to Moonglade and PVP there frequently between queues.

Also, Hoodie is really good at PVP. The horde hated him during phase 2 but that’s the way it should be with the opposite faction. He’s still the only other 60 to have globaled me which says something, I’m still not sure how he did it.

I personally like AB quite a bit and look forward to it. However, when TBC and arenas come out that will be great too.

Why don’t you take the challenge of beating rank 14s and prove your point? That’d be epic. I’m not even trolling

ive got nothing to prove, everybody knows classic is time > skill.

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Yeah BC removed the honour system and introduced the win trading system.

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oh people didnt win trade in classic?

You end both at the same time but kill horde in the meantime to cap towers which is around 20 mins. Rush drek no kek people have yet to do more than 6k honor/hr. Whereas killing all LTs, horde and towers is 13k+/hr and done in perfrction is literally 18k/hr

idk both are phenomenal in their own way. classic has more flaws obv but imo thats what makes the game so great. rough raw and original but tbc is absolutely phenomenal. i honestly couldnt choose

Classic TBC (or whatever it will be called) will have the same sort of issues Classic has. People’s behavior won’t change.

i think without having things like the rank 14 grind in place, it takes away alot of the crap in classic

for instance you cant gate keep pvp gear by playing 20 hours a day, it has set rating for which you get shoulders and weapon etc.

TBC classic just needs to come out, sooner the better

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I think end game tbc is better. I didnt like the arena or resilence gear. The honor system was broke day one. When i got to rank 7 on 11 hours a day grind then realized i got a couple months to go. I was done with it. This time i am trying to get to rank 8 before bwl. Hope it can happen but av grind just not fun anymore.

Yea I’ll agree with this. I’m fine with either as a concept, but the fact that 6 minute premade AVs make Wsg , or really any other method of pvp really, obsolete kinda sucks.

Arena and Resilience were my favorite parts of Tbc Pvp… Especially as a healer, resilience meant I could spend some Pvp time actually… Pvping instead of waiting for a res timer and running back…

And The Arena was the first truly competitive Pvp in Wow. You cant zerg it by playing 24/7 and while gear matters, coordination mattered much more.

It’s weird those would be 2 parts you hated since they’re basically what made BC pvp great, along with attainable rewards that actually meant something

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they rewarded SKILL instead of TIME in tbc

I mean kinda. There was a lot more to do, but time spent was also rewarded more consistently.

It was the start of dailies and “mandatory” reputation grinds though

talking about pvp

resilience specificially, priests were able to live far longer than classic

Hard to swallow pills - vanilla WoW was never designed with competitive gameplay in mind.

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rank 14 system? how not?

I agree with everything stated. Problems with TBC are: blood elves, non faction specific Paladin and shaman, flying, and outlands.

Honor system is way better, but those other changes, for me, are terrible.

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This is false.

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