Silvermoon is dead, Orgrimmar is way quieter than it was even a few months ago, and guilds are folding all over the place
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Iâm on east coast but that doesnât matter so much for me. I am mostly just looking for interactions besides the old WoW content treadmill. Debating between this pally or rogue on horde or alliance.
Gotta make some friends in Hawaii too! Theyâre an hour behind from the rest of us too! Guam is probably even closer to yâall.
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Orgrimmar is a little quieter. A lot of people I enjoyed being around, even a lot of close friends, have stopped coming on. I fully understand and support the reasons, but it does over all feel a little sad. I donât want to leave,because if everyone did all that would be left behind are the people who mostly the problem. Bad attitudes and poor behavior. I dont want to let them have all the space on their own, and I want to be try and be a part of the good that can remain and keep the place alive and encourage a better community.
So this hit is both sad but understandable, there isnt always as much activity but I still see a fair amount of rp. It was quite packed in the tavern last night. But the OOC behavior has seemed to have gotten a little more frequent with ooc conversations in the middle of rp, not to mentionâŚI still occasionally see bodies laying around for weeks that get in the way.
Events are also a little more sparse too.
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Edit to add just something more on topic: wra alliance better than mg. >:(
See this is part of the reason I left (indefinitely) in the first place.
I know I am cranky on the forums and am generally stilted and hard to talk to in the first place, but man thereâs been so much stuff thatâs just bad with no pushback, really, and Iâm just tired of it.
And itâs really like, how do you deal with that?
I just do /who in Stormwind and it makes me sad.
If it helps, I think /who has been broken/bugged for years now.
Has it? I spent a while flying around and I could barely find anyone.
Softly chants âDuskwood, Duskwood, Duskwoodâ in the background
Oh but remember to turn off chromie time and war mode if you come or else no one will be here.
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The peak time in Stormwind now is something like 10pm EST and later. I think 2am EST or so is when it ends, but I couldnât tell you for certain because Iâm old and in bed by then, lol.
Damn, that is definitely later than it used to be.
Itâs bleak. Whereas before taking a bunch of Elixirs of Tongues down to Orgrimmar and cross-factioning with a collection of Forsaken lawyers was merely the exercise of the depraved, now we have to do it just to make ends meet.
I believe that I may have settled on something. A Blood Elf rogue that is undead but doesnât realize it. It will need to be more fleshed out but I think I have a good base going on in my head. I donât know if it is weird or not but part of why I wanted to even get back into RP was for some sort of outlet for my own depression and learning how to deal with it. Not sure how good of an idea that character is, though.
Honestly, not to be that reply, but I felt this way for a long time about certain themes in Horde RP that have slowly been changing or dying, or just trying to facilitate RP outside of the Valley.
To speak a bit more directly, the Southfury Watch was formed as The Hammer of Kalimdor on Thorium Brotherhood back in TBC.
The idea back then was twofold: âEvery guild now is a blood elf dominated guild, so no blood elves⌠or undeadâ and âthe Crossroads is a popular quest hub that is often attacked by Alliance, letâs defend it and RP thereâ. It worked for years and years. People love a good WC3 Horde themed guild, and thatâs what it quickly evolved into by the time of Wrath.
But over time, aside from the typical wear and tear of time and drama every guild goes through, the guild ran into another problem only a couple years after I joinedâ WoW PvP was dying. First, in Legion, the world defense channel was removed from the game.
Then, in BfA, war mode was introduced, effectively dividing the spots a player could appear while leveling.
Finally, in SL, Chromie time was introduced. No more did players pass through the Crossroads to level, and when they did, there was a 3/4 chance they were on a different version than you anyway.
Now? Iâm the most senior member of the guild who has posted on our Discord or logged in within the last three months.
The guild has evolved, and itâs doing⌠fine. Really, about as well as any guild not running on copium and denial can manage, but things have changed. I miss my old friends, I miss the way there used to be a Horde community, I miss how faction pride used to be a thing, and not just a bitter jab at BfAâs garbage writing.
We never defend the Crossroads now because thereâs no one attacking it. Thereâs no one attacking it because thereâs no one leveling through it. And if there is (for either) weâre not going to see it.
These last few years have felt like nonstop uphill battles, battling sometimes against the very game itself. Admittedly, my attempts of the last two years have become half-hearted. And in the last year, I barely even RPed in WoW. I lost my will to fight.
Eventually I decided to cave and try FF14. Itâs different, itâs got its own problems, butâŚ
I saw people interacting, people posing their characters as NPCs simply for the sake of making the world feel more alive, I saw bards playing music- some using programs to auto play entire songs, others pressing keys manually, trying to learn piano IRL, and I saw players gather and cheer for both, I saw a community existing without needing to fight just to survive.
I literally had a moment like this and almost cried, I hadnât felt this kind of faith in community since WoD or early Legion.
I donât want WoW to fail, but Iâm tired of fighting for things that feel doomed. Especially when I donât think the developers care if RP just dies out completely.
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I remember someone got really snide at me about this but it really did negatively impact RP. Similar to yâall in Southfury, I used to hang out in Brill on my undead. Youâd meet new players or old leveling alts and occasionally defending Brill or Undercity from Alliance attacks. Heck, I used to keep a character logged in Crossroads just to help defend it from attacks with Southfury. Remember that druid with the vanity guild name of the Crossroads ??
Yet all three examples you cited, world defense being removed, warmode and now chromie time it has really impacted a lot of RP outside of the big hubs. Which is a trickle affect as it leads to people logging in less, community events diminishing and an overall decline in the RP community.
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There used to be people we could reliably count on to show up and defend the Crossroads. It sounds almost unbelievable to say that now.
That there was once a community of Horde players who would show up to defend the Crossroads from attacks, that there used to be actual minor raids against leveling zones, and that people would come running to defend against them. That sometimes you didnât even need to call for help, people would just show up on their own to help.
That just seems like such a foreign concept in modern WoW.
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Now all we have is off server streamers raiding Stormwind to own the RPers 
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Also missed this but yes itâs been bugged for a long time. If you have TRP youâre better off using the scan for RP tool.
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Once upon a timeâŚ
As Alliance, there was almost no better time in this game then setting out with your buds to Southshore and taunting/killing the Horde NPCâs in Tarren Mill. We always knew that once the Horde /defense channels lit up with Tarren Mill is Under Attack!âŚ
The ensuing, never ending sky train of Horde players flying in from Lordaeron on all their bats was just the coolest thing to watch.
Inevitably, weâd get crushed, stomped and fade out, but man what a sight it was.
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Yep! I remember that! Part of what made Brill a nice hang out spot was I wasnât that far from Tarren Mill to reinforce whatever local defense was rallying to kick these lame-o Alliance off my graveyard!!
Likewise some of us would go out to Ashenvale and knock some trees over and either Sentinels or Kalimdor Collective would show up and beat us into a pulp.
Iâve never been a big fan of standing around SMC or Orgrimmar and the silly World PVP adventures was what honestly hooked me into RP in the first place.
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