So, in other words, you want the deaths of streamers’ characters reversed. That goes against the entire idea of a hardcore mode. No special treatment.
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I find this whole thing hilarious. HC players just want HC to become softcore now. 
Dying from loss of service(or even power outages) is an inherent risk in any HC mode in any game ever. There’s no way to mitigate it, and if you do you are essentially saying HC shouldn’t be HC.
The end solution would only come in the form of a cheat death and auto character save mechanic, once again, negating the entire point of HC.
This discussion has been done to death a million times before across multiple games with HC modes like in path of exile, d3, etc.
And for the brainrots who don’t get why the solution won’t ever work, I’ll spell it out for you. The solution that fixes DC death will be abused because then anyone can just pull their internet plug when they are in danger of dying, thus negating the point of HC.
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No you don’t. Not by what you say here. Because these two stances are completely incompatible with each other. It has been explained over and over again. You just don’t get it.
“Oh but it was a DDoS attack” oh-kay, great, or rather not great. So don’t play during it. That’s literally all there is to it. The only reason folks are making a fuss about it now, as compared to 12 years ago in Diablo, 2 years ago when HC came out the first time, or the numerous other times in other games that have similar moments of folks saying “but that’s an invalid death/loss”, etc - is because of Onlyfangs drama-farming.
That’s what all of this boils down to: you are arguing that the deaths were invalid because of lag and you justify this by saying “the lag was caused by a DDoS attack.” Oh-kay. So log out. Sorry that you don’t like that this somehow is the solution to the issue at hand, but it is. Some folks lose their characters doing this, others doesn’t. But that’s the solution.
Folks didn’t and kept playing anyways, and lost their characters due to lag. No matter what caused the lag in the first place. Lag cannot be regarded as able to invalidate a death. Because at that point you aren’t playing hardcore (which again is fine if one doesn’t want to do that, but then you aren’t supposed to play on hardcore servers).
You not understanding this is what makes you not care about this mode that you are commenting about. Furthermore, to rollback the entire server (yes, you would have to rollback a server since if you rollback individual characters then you are providing individual support in evaluating people’s deaths as valid or invalid during a time you either consider EVERYTHING on the server invalid and thus you roll it back … or you don’t and don’t roll it back).
To put it bluntly: yes. Hardcore requires death to be final, and if you mess around with that … you don’t have hardcore servers. You have a weird “arbitrary invalid death sometimes” server.
This is why I pointed towards the comment that you ignored came from the hardcore reddit you were referring to earlier. You either decide that everything was unfair and roll back everything, which is untenable for a multitudes of reasons, or you consider the deaths unfortunate but valid. Those are your two options.
One cannot single out individual deaths as “those were invalid but those were.” Either everything is, or it isn’t. Welcome to hardcore modes, and no - it ain’t for everyone.
Lmao sure dude. Let me just use my magical abilities to see the future and predict when a DDoS attack occurs so that I can guarantee I’m not playing when it occurs. Because that’s definitely how this works.
What a buffoon argument lol
I’m not sure what kind of argument you think this is, but like, nobody can predict when a DDoS attack will occur. If people are in the middle of a dungeon, they can’t just log out nor are they able to decipher in that very moment whether or not what’s occurring is a DDoS attack. If they’re in a dungeon and they start lagging out, there’s virtually very little they can do to salvage the situation. Even logging out puts them at risk.
This is pretty nonsensical, even for you.
Sorry, but I think I care way more about the integrity of a game mode than people running in circles attempting to justify why a DDoS attack still doesn’t warrant a rollback because “muh hardcore” lmao
You wanna know what’s funny about this entire argument? Since you want to pull from other games, we should also point to Diablo IV, which has since instituted a new mechanic that protects players from hardcore who disconnect.
I guess, by your definition, hardcore is no longer hardcore in Diablo IV?
yeah they probably dont care very much about the streamer scene, hc has millions of people watching but retail has millions of people playing
so you are mad your favorite best friend streamer died in hc. oh nyo.
really though, why not just go again if you die in hc. that’s the entire point of hc. lol.
if you want some magical auto cheat death mechanic that saves people when they dc, that too will become the meta to save people when they are about to die in hc, by them just pulling their plug. why not just play softcore at that point.
you are pretending, or maybe you really dont care about the integrity of the HC mode, ok. so go play softcore? lol
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I’ve already said twice now that I don’t want streamers. This weak, flimsy argument ya’ll seem hellbent on deploying is only showing that you don’t have a leg to stand on here lol
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ok cool address the other 50 points people have made.
you dont care about HC integrity? go play softcore.
how will you stop people from abusing dc death protections to save their characters?
What points have people made besides “Hardcore is hardcore” lol
points you keep ignoring because you have zero argument against it and are just here to argue for your favorite streamer.
Show me what argument I’ve ignored that isn’t boiled down to “hardcore is hardcore” lol
they are all right there. do you not know how to read?
the willful ignoring of the other points is so disingenuous lmfao
I’ve read all of the arguments leveraged against me.
Every single one is some variation of “hardcore is hardcore,” which isn’t an argument more than it is just making a statement.
But please, feel free to point out what argument I’ve ignored lol
Well, why do you think the ddos, is isolated…Im reinstalling windows. They used our highend computers. This attack, is the best one I seen yet. Its a re-install, and HD replace bro. Its in WA. so…huh? roll back? Its in your WA. dumbass…
again they are right there. but you will continue to ignore them because you have no argument against it.
If they are “right there,” then you should have no trouble directing my attention to them.
Sure, sweetheart lol
Whoa, seriously…
disingenuous people like you are the reason why the internet is such an annoying place now
You can’t even tell me what arguments I’ve ignored. The burden of proof is on you to illustrate what I’ve ignored. You accused me of it. Show me where I was wrong.
Or don’t. I don’t really care either way lol
People will play. It’s only a weirdo minority that can’t understand what they’ve got into.