They demanded a roll back(Onlyfangs) but its not acceptable to ask so. Only for one real reason, if they do they will ALWAYS have to do this everytime a guild is DDOS’d, so what does this mean? A guild many INTENTIONALLY DDOs servers if a raid doesnt go well and say “blizzard!!! ddos, please rolback!!!”. But since blizzard does not rollback, no guild can fall back on the safety net of a DDOS attack to roll their characters back.
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And then they roll back gallywix…
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the thing is now everyone knows you can do this and kill a bunch of players. it will only happen more 
sure you can eat a couple deaths and shrug but if its gonna happen in the same way again with any ddos might as well play something else lol
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They knew what could happen and accepted the terms when they created the character. A roll back should NEVER happen, people need to get over themselves.
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Just kick characters off line if they dc.
The threat of ddos is enough to make the hardcore playerbase hesitate to play. Maybe some people will complain about people cheesing it by pulling their plug, but it’s the lesser evil (and also doesn’t matter).
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So… when the game is attacked and gallywix gets cheesed… its ok to roll that back… but not hardcore players when the game also gets attacked? How does this make sense?
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Are you asking me?
I wouldn’t care if they rolled back hc characters, but apparently some people do.
I think they could try and spin it into positivity if they tried. Make some changes to limit the damage next time and then do some community work/event small thing. Don’t they have a new season of some classic thing coming out soon?
Nothing against streamers, but I think they exist in their own heads and bubble, and often time inflate their importance to the game’s exposure. Probably having to do with ego’s and main character syndrome. Streaming is a good way to expose a game, sure, but this kind of streamer privelage that they exibit is getting old real fast.
It started out like “OMG I can’t believe I making a good living playing games on the internet, I’m so lucky”, to “I’m amazing, I play videogames on the net, pay up I am a very important person”.
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Soda is pretty chill about the whole thing frankly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1ji81ms/sodapoppin_declares_the_end_of_onlyfangs/
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Because you have purposefully chosen to word things in an extremely weird fashion in order to try to make them sounds similar when they aren’t. They aren’t even in the same ballpark in terms of similarity.
Gallywix got rolled back because of exploitative behaviour in-game that could be tracked and happened as a result of exploits.
A DDoS is, for all intents and purposes, people trying to login onto a server but at such enormous masses at the same time it gets overloaded and overworked. The server is still working as intended during a DDoS attack, just extremely slowly (which incidentally is also how you partially combat a DDoS attack by limiting the data that is sent from the server to players - which results in lag).
The game wasn’t attacked just because some folks used exploits to kill a boss using said exploits. A DDoS attack is an intentional attack to try to crash a server, or now’a’days due to how companies have gotten used to mitigating the damages, severely slow down the servers. These two aren’t the same.
When the server is laggy, the solution is to not play or to be extremely careful. If you die on a hardcore server as as result of lag, you lose your character. That’s part of the hardcore experience, and also why some folks who play hardcore really shouldn’t. Because losing your character because of lag might feel cheap but… hint: it ain’t - because lag is a thing people have to deal with when playing an online game, so that’s par of the course, DDoS attack or not.
If you try to say “that death didn’t really count” then that cheapens the hardcore-experience and at that point… why the hell play hardcore? Diablo 3 set a very solid precedence when it came out in 2012 and the same thing happened: servers got DDoS’d (way worse than they were right now as well) and people lost their HC characters. The response? “Don’t you dare restore my character!” when Blizzard asked players, streamers, polls - everything.
Folks who actually play hardcore for the hardcore experience have always been fine with this, because one has to be. Sorry to tell you but you are trying to equivocate two things that aren’t the same, and for everyone who actually cares about hardcore or ironman experiences … all of this is part of the course of it.
If you look for streamers who are like this, then… sure? Welcome to the internet where you can either work hard for recognition, or you take the quick route and engage in drama and create a community of terminally online trolls.
You can either participate in communities that aren’t terminally online trolls, or you can engage in communities that are. Streaming isn’t anything different from the rest of the internet in this regard. As it turned out, a lot of people in Onlyfangs were of the Drama variety but not everyone (doesn’t mean that the non-drama ones outweighed the drama oriented ones but still - can’t paint everyone with the same brush is the point).
One can say the same thing in regards to every facet of online communities though.
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Again, I don’t have anything against them, and people are just making the best lives they can, and trying to make the most money. I just think popularity has infected their sense of what it is they’re actually doing. I also think like other social media site’s that I’m not going to believe viewer numbers on Twitch as bots are abundant everywhere in mass quantities.
Sucks that it ended this way for them though, but you build a bridge on a string it’s going to snap eventually.
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I have seen em happen occasionally in other MMOs, but only when something seriously wrong that just intrinsically broke the game happened. I am not familiar with the situation the OP is referencing, but somehow I doubt what happened was on that scale.
They’re all streamers n’ shizz.
OF COURSE they’re targets for DDoS attacks.
If Blizzard DID do a rollback, there’s a 100% chance they’ll get attacked again, kinda making it pointless to do so.
It gives the DDoS’ers attention to bring down huge streamers, that’s why they do it.
They just love driving their customers away
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I’m not against a rollback but only if its for everyone, not just streamers
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IMHO a lot of streamers have streamer brain, i.e. they are constantly thinking about content.
It isn’t their popularity that’s affecting them but their chasing of popularity - it’s their job, their income.
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Onlyfangs was a streamer based HC classic WOW group event where are a bunch of streamer get super sweaty doing old content. They got DDoS’d the other day and they delayed their raid and it ended up happening earlier yesterday. Live on stream, they began disconnecting and many/most ended up dying.
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I just don’t think its completely real. The viewership numbers i believe are manipulated. I think its somewhat like this on YouTube as well. This way these platforms have more control over what people are seeing than they realize. Maybe thats my conspiratorial mind, but its batting at least 500.
I know this is ragebait, but it’s pretty disappointing that Blizzard aren’t doing a rollback, not for OnlyFangs, but because it creates a chilling effect on hardcore wow.
Bit hard to justify investing any sort of time or effort when some ahole can take down the entire server for funzies.
Counterpoint. If Blizzard DOESN’T do a rollback, then it just massively increases the power that having a DDOS has. Like you DDOS retail or regular classic and no-one gives a damn, worst case scenario is you can’t raid that night.
You DDOS hardcore WoW and if there’s no precedent for rollback, the impact of your DDOS just gets increased hundredfold. Instead of wasting a couple hours per person, you potentially waste dozens, if not hundreds of hours.
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If they do a roll-back now, it’ll just look like streamer privilege.
The people complaining and pushing for a roll-back already knew the rules and this is what they signed up for… 
either go again or move on.
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