I think I see the problem. Even worse, I predicted it

Oh I know why.

Bad marketing, bad design decisions, poorly tuned content AND attunements.

Shockingly similar to BFA, minus attunements and maybe the marketing at launch being good. Not gonna lie, their initial sales were good.

The part I’m worried about is retention.

Yet your suggestions would kill WoW faster than anything that happened in BFA.

There is a reason why, in its entire 14+ year history I have never seen what you are asking for implemented in game.

Really? JP/VP didn’t exist in Wrath, Cata, and Pre-SOO MOP?

JP/VP is not what you are asking for.

In Wrath difficulty level and “pve premades” still got you the best gear.

You did the harder content for the better gear.

I know JP/VP mixed with WF/TF would get me to shut up, that’s for sure.

Also buying sockets/tertiaries with JP/VP would be nice.

Wrath’s Raids were doable compared to BFA.

How were the raids “doable”?

And you can also easily get badge quality gear now. Getting gear in WoW is a joke. This is probably the easiest period in WoW’s history to get higher ilvl based gear.

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you can have an ilvl over 400 without completing a 10 or stepping into a raid. this is content i would consider hard to fail and easy to pug.

claiming good gear is hard to get at this point is just objectively incorrect.

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Difficulty is not just for sport.

You do realize mowing down mobs is faster with Furious Gaze and Immolation Aura right?

Not an issue with WoW.

Subjective. They went a route to make the game more like original WoW where it wasn’t easy to get into end game content. Some enjoyed that. Even if others didn’t, that doesn’t make it bad. It just makes it a niche design.

Which doesn’t exist in WoW.

So in other words, not similar at all. :roll_eyes:

Agreed. Back in the BC days you needed to clear raids and get that gear to run most dungeons on heroic dif. … Which i now equate to mythics. Get a guild or start one. Get “your” group and get busy.

JP and VP were replaced by LFR. Normal and heroic dungeons were moved down to learning and fresh dinged status with base mythic 0 the new heroic, while also preparing the player for m+. (Hence the no queue.)

Wrath’s raids were for sure not as doable, as there was only two difficulties split between raid sizes. No flex. No LFR. Gearscore.

You are just throwing mindless darts at a dartboard because you’re upset your gear is not the same as someone who does harder content.

Gear can never be good if everyone has it, they would be called average instead of good, OP is basically asking for the impossible.

most of my toons are like 360-370ish and i can do whatever i want to with that item level. i have a dh that’s only 345 but that’s because i decided to level my priest right after instead of gearing him. he can still do pretty much whatever he’d like. i should probably raise his ilevel a little bit if i want to pvp with him though. lol

You don’t even need gear for this.

It already is a solo game.

WoW has become a Open World Solo Game With The Option To Opt Into Multi.

Forced multi doesnt exist really anymore, you can see everything in game via a queue , you don’t have to speak to a single person ever, its why i have no clue why Op is saying what he is saying.

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