So we’re in the same boat. Now go back to retail and stop crying here.
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Yea can we get over this whole “meaningful choice” bs. That should really apply to permanent decisions, such as class. Spec is something that you can change over and over again. That’s not really something that should fall in that category. I can go buy thousands of gold online right now and basically have Dual Spec if I wanted to. What a meaningful choice that would be.
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And we couldn’t care less what you think. See how that works?
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But that would be cheating.
Go back to retail is the laziest and dumbest response there is
People can love classic and still critique it, some of you think that classic is literal perfection and infallible, people are allowed to talk about ways they think classic could be improved.
This is the same type of argument as someone that say’s if you critique your country, you should just leave. See how dumb that sounds, you can love something, and still have critiques about what you think could improve it.
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Good point that would be cheating. But some people are able to legitimately make tons of gold. That’s not really my point though. The point is that it’s not a meaningful decision if it’s something that is designed to be easy to change. Class and Professions is an example of something that requires a significant time or money investment to change. That’s a good example of a meaningful decision. Changing Spec takes little money and about 3 minutes to do. Not exactly meaningful and important
Most terrible tanks are afraid of DS. I get it.
It’s intended to be a deterrent. They didn’t want players changing specs regularly. But they also didn’t want players locked into a bad spec forever if they misallocated some points. So they put in a safety measure to allow people to correct a mistake, with an escalating price.
This was common RPG design at the time, and it still exists today. In the wildly popular Dark Souls 1, you cannot respec, at all. But in Dark Souls 2 and 3, you can, but the number of times is limited and you have to obtain a special item.
IMO, the problem is that many modern players try to play this like one of their shooter MMO’s, and don’t give a crap about the RPG elements in the game. But this was intended to be an MMMRPG, and a recreation of an old school one at that.
I play a healer I do not want dual spec.
I log in twice a week for a raid night.
That’s it. Rest of the time I am on retail playing specs I want, content i want.
I can’t do PvP in prot.
I can’t do world content in prot.
I can’t even farm gold properly except for mindlessly running old dungeons mass pulling. I won’t do it because its boring. Its dull. Thus, I don’t have the ability to spend hundrends of gold a day to respec. So I won’t do any of those stuff.
Why would anyone care if they added achievements. I never bothered with them but some people seem to have fun getting them. It doesn’t hurt me at all if they want to play the game that way. I never get this desire some have to get other people to play the same way you play.
Ok, but do you PvP?
If you only heal PvE then you don’t really need dual spec, some people like to PvP or have a dps spec for farming primals etc
It’s not that “any” change is bad, it’s just that we recognize bad changes when we see them. Mostly because we’ve already seen the effect said changes had in retail and we don’t want to repeat them.
Says the guy who boiled down the opposition to his proposed changes to this:
Most of the people that defend no dual spec, happen to be classes that can be dps, dps, or dps as their specs. Or they are classic purists I guess that anything changed is bad, even if it’s good
I don’t know. I’m not sure how they would affect things in TBC.
I liked achievements during Wrath, and had fun with them. It was simply a reply to why we don’t have a feature that doesn’t exist in TBC.
Why would anyone care if they added battle pets? (except of course those who enjoy pet battles — they might be happy about that).
You could say it about anything that someone wants that exists in future expansions, but not the current TBC Classic. If Blizzard decides to make the changes to add them, then we’ll get them.
I didn’t mean that reply to be expressing an opinion in favor or against anything.
But also the most satisfying and appropriate. It’s a real mystery, but there it is
seems like a L2P issue tbh
Soz granpa, but it seems like you’re going blind.
Dull =/= l2p
But it’s okay. I forgive you.
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He’s right though. This is a “you” problem, not a game design problem.
Yes I do PvP and PvE as a healer.
I also quest as a healer.
I can’t dps but I can heal the live out of me and the tank I quest with.