legion was @#$% bop world drop build defining legendary items that had hidden limits. found your 3 legos and didnt get “X”? gg legion was the start of the leave it broken until season 4 mentality. hope all those devs have been fired by now.
As soon as I hit 80, I go back to wrath and Legion, and also a bit of Shadowlands for covenant gear. TWW was fun only once, so far
Eh, hard disagree. DF had some great zones, and for all the crap SL gave us, we still got Revendreth out of it, which is still one of the coolest zones in the game.
IDK man, Hero Talents have been tapping into the same feel I got from Artifacts, but a bit more cracked. 
Yeah, there were some pretty great story beats-
lolwut, die mad about it.
Remember grinding AP and how bad having alts was for the first couple patches? Yeah, nah that ain’t it chief.
AoE spam is only engaging if you’re a 3 year old who only lives to see ‘big numby’ on the screen.
You have crap taste.
This is the one thing I’ll agree with you on. Legion was good but I’ll take Anduin working through his crap and learning how to shape up over a shirtless edgelord who got mad at his crush choosing the CLEARLY better option and whining for millennia about it.
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I’m leveling alts through it now, and I am so sad I was on break when it was current. I love the class halls.
Legion is probably their best modern expac, but I think a lot of people don’t want to remember that worst parts. But it was the best modern expac.
Ib don’t miss the artifact knowledge. That was dumb and needs to stay buried. Though I’m sure it’ll make a return of they bring out Legion classic. I don’t miss M+ groups getting a leaver if you weren’t going to 3 chest at the end. M+ with a death ball and nothing to worry about was just Heroic +. Just making a death ball and AoEing it down doesn’t really make M+ a pillar of end game, like it’s supposed to be. In my opinion, of course.
I think the story is so remembered because it brought back and ended several storylines and characters that WoW had. Varian, Vol’jin’s short time as Warchief bright to an end, Tyrian, ect. Legion felt like a good swan songb for many stories. Runas the Shamed showed that they know how to write a character in a short amount of time to make you care. That’s why Zoval felt like a huge letdown for me. We never cared about him. He was just there and his plans made no sense. Trying to wrap in Wrath was stupid because it took away from Arthas and his choices. They were supposed to have been his, abs the consequences also his. Now it was mind control and cheapens the story of Frozen z Throne and WotLK for me. Besides, now Nerzul being in the helm makes even less sense now.
But getting off the SL lore hate. Legion just felt like it would have been a good time to launch WoW 2 out something like that. After the high of Legion, what has followed do far hasn’t stood a candle. But the lore also hasn’t had a chance to do catch up. They had lore dating back to the first real time strategy game drawn on 1994 - 2016. 22 years of lore to draw on. They have to build up their lore character stoke pile again.
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I do miss Legion. It was like crack to me. All content felt rewarding. WQ pop up every four hours too. There was also mission tables that was a fun side game.
The problem with Legion is that Mythic Raid Loggers complained about “force content” and having to non-stop run Maw of Souls.
Now we have War Within which is a weekly game. You basically full up your vaults for the week and you are done.
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Legion is my favourite expansion. For many of the reasons you’ve mentioned (especially the character development). But the game can’t stop there. The storyline needs to continue to be fresh. There are moments in WW that gave me those tingly feelings from Legion (with Anduin towards the end of the campaign). Gameplay wise, I think the game now is in a very healthy spot.
Side note: I don’t why they did not continue to do those Audio Drama series they did for Legion. Those were fantastic!
Same. There were tons of content for everyone in that expansion. BFA also. Those two expansions had the best open world content this game has ever had imho. Legion invasions, and BFA faction assaults were fun, and would usually see bunches of people doing them. Now we are back to the throwback model to not much of anything to do unless you live in instanced content.
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don’t forget MoP! that’s when they first really started focusing on openworld content, with all the world bosses and rares (Warbringers!), the Tillers, Nat Pagle, pet battles, and of course Timeless Isle which was always jumpin’. funny how two of the most highly regarded expansions just happen to be the two that had the best openworld content. whereas with these last two expansions it’s just about as bad as it’s ever been. Blizzard has basically abandoned the social solo player.
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Yeah, Mop was good also. Especially the farm. DF was ok after they added the other weekly events in later patches. Suffusion camp dailies, and Fryakks diciple showing up after killing a few of the mini boss spawned npc’s. Pretty much was my endgame along with the Time rift, and Dreamsurge events. Always a bunch of people around doing them which made it fun, and what this game is supposed to be about, seeing people out in the zones having fun. Not just funneled/ shoehorned into instanced content constantly. My sub is up early Dec, which gives me some time to do some of the anniversary event stuff, but don’t plan on coming back until they add more outdoor content like mentioned above. 2 years with nothing but delves, dungeons, raids etc, isn’t going to cut it imo.
…Cept for WoD, MoP, Cata, Wrath, TBC, Vanilla… heck, Shadowlands, BFA and Dragonflight since they are more or less just Legion.
Ahh yes, i too miss my copy paste garrison with just a different cosmetic overlaid over it. /s
That’s something we can actually all agree on.
LOL.
Ahh yes, because … bad writing doesn’t exist prior to that when you have manly menny men men. Just ask Cata Garrosh what he thinks of MoP Garrosh.
Or W3 Arthas of what he thinks of Wrath Arthas.
Or W3 Illidan what he thinks of TBC Illidan… Or Legion Illidan.
Or W3/Vanilla Thrall what he thinks of Cata Thrall.
Ahh yes, i too miss the never ending tiresome grind of my gimmick weapons. /s
Also, this gave away to Aerzite and Anima grinding.
…So facerolling?
I mean far be it from me to tell you how M+ should be, i just think WoD was cooking something with Mythic dungeon, before it being trashed by M+… Which itself changed the whole pace of the game.
You guys really need to reconsider your love for legion when it’s the source for so many of the pains of WoW now.
*Was
…Typically when somebody compares something to Fortnite, it’s usually used as a negative.
It seems with Garrisons and Class Halls, they were on to something, but we haven’t seen that design again since.
The legion zones outside of Highmountain and Suramar were terrible. The overall questing had no cohesion. WoD questing was light years better.
No argument from me regarding class fantasy and lore - legions was better even if it had really low points.
Argus was expansion material and wasted as a small patch. That’s a egregious offense. Just like Nazjatar an expansion later, we now know why the zones were sacrificed… the new dev team thoroughly hated WoWs core and wanted to replace it with the BS we saw in Dragonflight, we can only hope Metzen wins the arms race with the “new” team in the story room for the remainder of the WSS.
Shadowlands was their hastily thrown together death sentence to WoWs universe. They couldn’t stand the setting any longer and had to expedite its demise so they could spend their time writing about being friends and flowers and centaur marriages and edgelord teenage level villains like the incarnates telling the titans they infringed on their free will “Dad I hate you cause you didn’t let me wear ripped jeans in high school and you made me think ripped jeans were bad”.
M+ - was fun in legion but mass AoE is very boring and annoying. M+ die hards are upset that they are now being required to showcase skill on par with the loot they are being rewarded. For several expansions - M+ players were enjoying mythic raid level loot at the cost of end of raid NORMAL raid difficulty in +15 keys.
Yeah legion was a good expansion , it was more focused on your individual classes and your artifact weapon
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And still managed an excellent post leveling story with Suramar despite the emphasis on class fantasy and class stories.
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Oh yeah Suramar was awesome , you actually got invested in the Nightborne only to find out they joined the horde 
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nonexistent after you get to level cap, and a couple lame wq’s in the zones doesn’t and will never change that. Why they keep World in the title of this game idk lol. Might as well change it to dungeonraiddelve craft 
It’s an insult to the word-> world by keeping it in the title of game lol.
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One nightly fly over Suramar from Argus is simply Beautiful… I also miss Legion ~
Suramar. Your argument is moot.
The retcons on Illidan sucked, yes, everything else was amazing. The side stories and plot non-related to him were very nice.
If by 1 you mean 32 (DH), 64 (Druid) and 48 (everyone else, then yes).
It also had the last good iteration of Legendary items.
It was also the first profession revamp, and the last good one.
Anti-legion andies “but the AP grind/RNG leggos” are the worst.
See below:
No, because grinding this (nor the other AP grinds of later XPACs, even if they were worse versions of AP/AK) was not mandatory. You brought this upon yourself.
Spec swapping could have used some work, but that was it.
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…Yeah, you’ve never played Legion and it shows my guy.
So hush up, sit down, and give me whatever you’re having that makes you say that. And while you’re at it, share it with these fellows. 