All those who were killed because all of them went to the maw and got the same treatment
Someone didnât play the warfront. Because what I just mentioned is literally in game
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The warfront was a back and forth. Itâd be like me playing a battleground now and saying the night elves now control Arathi
I really canât fathom how a discussion about an ENTIRE FACTION of the game hasnât had any real content or quality storylines has devolved into âBut muh one race of the 22 playable onesâ, is effing bonkers to me.
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The night elves literally won the warfront with help from the gilneas and the Bloodfang
Try actually playing the damn game before spouting the complete nonsense you do
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There are 2 versions of the warfront. 1 in which the Alliance won and 1 in which the Horde won. It cycled back and forth weekly.
The night elves won. Thatâs the canon outcome of that warfront. Nobody gives a damn about your fan fiction regarding the game and itâs lore
End of discussion
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Cool, Iâm waiting for an ingame depiction of that.
Not that it matters because Exploring Kalimdor nullified any victory the Night Elves may have had anyway.
Letâs be honest here. There isnât a single thing that the game could do that would make you happy. I understand that youâre a Kaldorei fan, and I even respect that.
But they canât realistically punish an entire faction for a storyline they themselves thought up (however flawed), and then force the playerbase to, again, login to self-masochism. You seem intelligent, although I would say that some of your arguments have been in bad faith. Do you really want the people that run Mythics and raids with you to be miserable, just because Night Elves got a bad rap? I can tell you I sure wouldnât want for you to have to endure that.
Are you truly that callous? I donât think you are, deep down.
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Iâve been quite vocal about what I want for years. And while I settled for accepting the new home as an apology, that still doesnât change anything about how unfairly the night elves were treated in BfA (and Shadowlands). Yet some people like to ignore that. We also wouldnât have gotten anything at all without the various complaints, but thatâs a different story.
I never asked for this, but if a Horde player feels punished if their faction gets pushed out of the territory of the race they got to completely obliterate then uh⊠thatâs a problem with said Horde playerâs entitlement.
Iâm not sure why you need to put words in my mouth now.
To be fair, we have this quest.
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Which is also just telling us that we won rather than showing us. Would it have been to much to ask for to give night elves a questline where they just beat the Horde in one of their zones? Or a cinematic or whatever.
And then the Darkshore victory got nullified in Exploring Kalimdor anyway
Thatâs akin to what you want, though. My original post was all about the fact that the Horde is bare bones. They have nothing going on, storywise. Nothing at all. You can honestly tell that Blizzard has no idea what theyâre doing when it comes to the Horde when theyâre not villian-batting them. But to have some form of Kaldorei victory over the Horde now, I mean⊠Heck, at least then maybe weâd get some kind of content at all.
I get that you said, originally, that you want a military victory for the Kaldorei. But, Iâm telling you. As far as the Horde goes, thereâs nothing left. Like, at all. In a lot of ways, what was done to Night Elves isnât fair. I will agree with you. There have definitely been points where it just straight up looked like all the Night Elves are, is punching bags. But at this point, itâs the Horde, too.
Weâve got nothing, dude. And weâve been villain batted so many times that an entire faction of the game just straight up doesnât make sense most of the time anymore. Itâs why Iâve said, Iâm switching to Alliance main in TWW, just because Horde doesnât âfeelâ like it makes any sense to me. Iâve played WoW since the stress test right before WoW was released, and seriously, it just does not feel good to play Horde. At all. But my major point is, itâs not like itâs any of our faults. I promise you most of us didnât want the story to go this way.
Also, I wasnât trying to put words in your mouth, and I apologize if it felt that way.
**Edited for spelling.
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To correct you, there is a single questline for kaldorei that confirms our side as the canon winner in the warfront, I think it is called a New Hope.
Now, I like to be fair, and i have seen plenty of annoying night elf fans complaining that Teldrassil or Ashenvale havenât been addressed, but Iâm seeing right now, a lot of horde players trying to diminish or reduce the tragedy that Teldrassil was canonically, Like, there is no real way around it, burning Teldrassil targeted only civillians, it was simply to wipe out as many night elves as possible.
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Well the ship has kind of sailed now⊠unless the Horde is still attacking the Night Elves in Ashenvale like EK suggested.
And Iâm with you, I agree that the Horde has been ruined for people like you and me who wanted to play a honorable Horde thatâs not just pure evil, but the players who are praising Blizzard for making the Horde pure evil are ruining it too.
And there are sadly a lot of pro-genocide Horde players across various social media platforms. You canât even talk about Night Elves anywhere anymore without some of them coming in with more genocide jokes.
It doesnât help that Blizzard devs themselves were joking about it and bullying night elf fans on twitter and in their work environment.
Well, the pro-evil horde probably didnât enjoy having to help night elves with Amirdrassil either, so I guess you could always counter with that. Or rub in Calia as their babysitter.
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Huh, they are?
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There have been several instances of blizz devs making jokes about the night elf genocide both on twitter and in their office
Out of curiosity do you have any specific example of said thing?
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I believe Dreadmoore meant in story terms, not number of people killed.
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