Same here. I actually never did it at all. I only played the WoT on an Alliance character, not on any of my Horde characters. And even then, I seriously considered quitting the game. The only reason I stuck around was because I had a raiding group at the time.
I was on the forums at the time, and there were all kinds of opinions flying back and forth. The Horde playerbase was hugely divided. You don’t get to say that all of us who were angry at Blizzard for what they did to us (and even to you) don’t count, just because there were others who wanted to be jerks to you about it.
I get that it’s easier to focus on that because it would have hit you in a more personal way. But it’s been six years of real time since then, and you should be mature enough to look at the situation in a more balanced way by now.
Both.
There are more members of the Horde than there are citizens of Teldrassil.
If any of you think an immortal race that lives for fifteen thousand years reproduces like normal races, but for some reason hasn’t outpopulated the entire planet, I got bad news for you.
I use Twitter for football. Now that also is. filled with trolls and people who think their opinions are facts. But if you select only people you follow to look at you can create a group that is reasonable.
Ironically, one of them jokes about trying to set a record for blocking people.
An approach that works well on these forums. You see a troll going “Horde genocide” just block them. (I’m a little curious how many people I’ve block will try and respond to the joke that the term Horde genocide has become.)
It’s the bots that were the last straw for me. I got tired of blocking them all. I don’t want to read about their only fans or some other bot they tag that can help me with security issues lol. I was just talking to a friend on there and we got a bunch of bot replies. So we took the conversation to Discord. It’s just got this dead internet feel about it now.
Sylvanas isn’t even Horde at this point. And really the story is treated like DF where everyone does the same story. No one has individual faction story now.
Yeah, Sylvanas is back to being Horde as of the Forsaken Heritage Quest. She tells loyalist Horde players that they’re the only people who she can trust and consider to be her truest friends, so when she is finished in the Maw, she plans to return to the Forsaken/Horde and hang with them.
Everyone suspects she’ll be back for Midnight, but I feel like they’ll save her return to the Horde for The Last Titan.
I dunno, I think that’s why the line worked - it’s ambiguous. If someone likes Sylvanas, they can focus on the ‘but arrows get reclaimed’ aspect. If someone doesn’t like Sylvanas, they can focus on the ‘arrows are made to be expended’ part.
Because really, there is a middle ground. Rangers will retrieve arrows whenever they can, but there’s no guarantee that they can, especially in pitched combat. It all depends on the context, and different readers bring different context with them.
Ëlësà’s not wrong. I remember something about some Blizzard employees making Teldrassil jokes at a company barbeque. But those comments read differently now that we know that the burning of Teldrassil was a plot point that Alex Afrasiabi rammed through over the objections of a significant part of the writing staff. It sounds to me more like “My job sucks and I have to go along with my boss’s stupid story plans” than “Hahahaha I hate the Night Elf fans and hope they suffer.”
I hope they do. Midnight is almost certainly too soon.
I always saw it more as “Arrows are a resource and I will not waste them for stupid reasons. If I spend an arrow, knowing that it may not be retrievable, I’m going to make sure the potential loss is worth it.” Which is fine by me for a military leader. Admirable, even.
That Sylvanas will be back in the worldsoul saga, I have no doubts. But I wonder what will be the in-universe explanation, like, her rescuing souls in the maw is supposed to take a long time (eons, based on what i heard is mentioned in the Sylvanas novel). I wonder if Sylvanas will find a legal loophole, or she will just decide she had enough and force her way out of the Maw.
The other possibility, which will be kinda bad, is if Tyrande is somehow convinced to lift her sentence for some reason, like some sort of “we need you Sylvanas”.
I fully expect them to pull some kind of timey-wimey shenanigans like “time passes faster in the Shadowlands” to pull Sylvanas back into the narrative in Midnight solely because the expansion will revolve around Quel’thalas.
But I agree that Midnight would be too soon to bring her back and she should stay in the Maw until TLT or later.
