I love the idea of Orcs vs Humans, one of my all time favorite Blizzard games is Warcraft II. The whole concept of taking a wormhole powered by magic to travel somewhere else and somewhen else in time when the Horde was badass and having Garosh attempt to have the Horde return to their former glory was the best thing that ever happened to WoW (notice the sub numbers skyrocketed on the launch of WoD probably because us players from the 90s gave Azeroth another chance)
I know the garrisons were a bad idea, but how could I blame Blizzard for it? Players have been begging for player housing since 2004, so Blizzard gave it a shot, and I respect them for trying because maybe it’ll work out. Obviously it didn’t so we know now to not try it again.
But the whole story and setting of WoD was amazing, Garrosh was a respectable Warchief of the Horde. We had to fight Orcs and the early Legion before they were ultimately defeated in Reign of Chaos. (This is why I couldn’t stand Legion expansion, the Legion was long defeated, Illidan was dead, so where is their power coming from) And holy crap, the villains in WoD were phenomenal. Kargath Bladefist, Teron Gorefiend, Guldan, Grom along with the old Bonechewer Clan, Laughing Skull Clan, Twilights Hammer Clan, etc… all of the old school factions from Warcraft II were back.
I’m not a hypocrite, I never hated WoD. I’m not saying WoD was bad because of my impressions of BfA. I never bought Legion because I was upset that the towel was thrown in for WoD, it was pretty much cancelled by 6.2.
Saying that “Garrisons are the WoW version of player housing” is like saying “Quillboars are the WoW version of the hedgehog”.
For starters, a garrison is not a house. The minimum requirement for player housing is a house.
Don’t blame the people who ask for Housing for Garrisons. We asked for candy and got an alligator. Blame whoever thought an alligator was a type of candy.
Player housing would be an instanced location for individual players that would allow for customization/upgrades through some kind of progression system.
How would your idea of player housing differ from garrisons? Because I think your idea for housing would be nearly identical to garrisons in terms of functionality. Garrisons were nothing but substitutes for capital cities where all amenities are concentrated in a single hub.
And this is also why they lost 50% of their subs in a handful of months during WoD. Nostalgia doesn’t hold people, and that was the entire idea behind the expansion.
Obviously it held you. It doesn’t hold most.
Garrisons were their interpretation of a weird combination of Housing and RTS base building. They decided if they were to do something like that, it would have to tie directly into normal gameplay, and that mindset is ultimately what ruined it for anyone who wanted actual player housing. It’s not at all the same thing and claiming “we know not to try it again” is basically bait.
Again, Nostalgia: The Expansion. Clearly you got a good kick out of it. That’s fine. MOST people were annoyed by WoD’s story.
For me personally, WoD had good dungeons and raids but didn’t have anything else going for it, and there was a severe lack of content, even in areas where it was otherwise good.
As someone who played Star Wars: Galaxies, which had proper “player housing” I would disagree with your assessment that garrisons were “functionally similar” to housing. They weren’t even close.
Not saying I even cared or still care to have a “house” in the future in WoW, but garrisons in WoW do not equal a player house.
The feature in of itself is the reason why WoD was devoid of content, the team put too much resources into a feature the players think they wanted and begged for. There’s a gravestone in your garrison for an entire raid tier.
Like I said, resources were wasted on a feature players begged for.
You don’t need to go anywhere anymore to queue for content, it’s been this way since cata. What do you mean???
It stayed in Legion and BfA, I think it’s unfair to call this a bad feature when it’s continued to exist in the same form.
Like a super inn? garrisons had inns, and how would this even work at max level? seems pointless.
I have Stormwind already for this, again seems pointless.
Still would’ve lost a raid tier to this entirely new system.
again, sounds like a capital city which already does this for you.
I’m confused, so remove the group finder? Because since MoP you don’t need to go to any specific place to queue up for anything.
