The whole idea of the druid class is to be flexible and be able to change from one role to another at the drop of a hat. Jack of all trades, master of none.
Wanting to do absolutely nothing but tanking is neglecting a big portion of the class… and not how it was meant to be played. Doesn’t seem like druid is for you.
edit: It is a shame that paladins were never fixed, tanking wise, back in vanilla… as the idea behind that class was they were supposed to be a tank class… But if they fixed paladins to be able to tank, they’d also have to change shamans and allow them to tank (as also originally planned).
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What? I don’t remember any Paladin raid tanks. They might have a niche role on some trash but how exactly do you maintain threat as a paladin tank in a raid setting without having druids blow their innervates?
Threat was never a problem for paladins, it was the lack of taunt that did them in.
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Totally false.
Warriors can spam Demoralizing Shout and Battle Shout along with Cleave spam and tab Sundering and hold large packs very well. Warriors also have an infinite resource, Rage. Throw a Shield Spike on a Force Reactive Disk or any shield that does damage on block and nobody can touch a good Warrior for AOE tanking in Classic.
If it is that important to you to raid tank, you can play Warrior or Druid. Raid tanking positions will be highly competitive.
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This is true until they run out of mana. If your dps get overzealous and pull off of you before you establish threat that is a big problem.
I mean, you can try dps druid, i’m sure some one will take a token owl or cat.
No, there was a huge threat problem for paladin’s, mostly because they run out of mana.
I was a main Paladin until 1.10 patch, did the server first 45-min baron run doing a prot/holy hybrid and tanked a ton of 5 mans back in the day. In a raid setting against fire mages and fury warriors and no taunt/no innervate a paladin would go OOM and lose threat.
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Shaman were never planned to be tanks (HD confirmed this). They, combat rogues, and survival hunters were planned to have off-tank potential, to save other party members in pinch but never main tanks. Rogue/Hunter lost some of that when they removed bucklers (though combat rogues still have several of their OT-tools and Hunter has some of their’s left) but shaman kept most of their tools for it.
The only MTs were always Druid, Paladin, and Warrior. Though Druids took most of vanilla to get good (the main changes between Vanilla and TBC were letting them use Barkskin in forms and giving them a crit-proof talent) and paladins kept falling through the cracks due to their high amount of representation which signaled the class was in a good spot and lower priority for tweaks (even though they were so represented because their healing was so good).
Put on a dress and HEAL ME1!!111111
Seriously. I’m trying to do 1337 DPS over here and the fire I’m standing in is cramping my style!
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Umm, you will have to heal some unless you find a very nice GM or RL. Both druids and paladins have decurses, cleanses, etc that will be needed on specific fights. If you’re not willing to be flexible you’re limiting yourself. That’s your choice. Just don’t complain about it.
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You kids and your “I don’t want to do that” attitudes. Back when I was your age, even the rogues were forced to heal. It was awkward, though, when they pressed the wrong button and unlocked you instead.
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ok no joke though when I would run MC in Vanilla us rogues would never get healed. I remember vanishing to eat to survive the stacking debuff on golemagg. The harvest festival horn was really useful because it made food you could eat at the same time as normal food.
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Paladins have a lot more drawbacks than just getting 1 shotted by crushing blows, consecrate doesn’t automatically make them a “better rounded” tank.
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I played a raiding Paladin in a BWL/AQ guild from 2004-2006… check out the Judgement, which by the way is so-so for healing but looks badass. If you don’t want to heal, I recommend not having the spells. If you want to tank, far as classic goes, be a warrior.
Needless to say, my next main was a mage, with a rogue alt I craved meaningful DPS so badly. Learn from my mistakes and 350 days /played on this toon.
druids can tank alot of raid bosses.
hell i tanked as arms and diddnt have shield block up alot of the time and i did fine.
pallies on the other hand were pretty poopie doo doo.
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trust me, that will be the least of your worries. Worry about being paralyzed to death for the rest of classic warcraft. #classiczStunlock
Druid tanks work fine MC-AQ if itemized correctly, and in some cases better for specific bosses. They will never the “meta” tank because warriors have better cooldowns.
MANY guilds will allow this if you prove you can handle it properly with max consumes and gear.
As far as gear goes, druid is very easy to gear through raids as most of their mitigation is dodge, agi, and stam.
So you obviously understand that this is one of the reasons why vanilla WoW was bad.
Solution: Don’t play classic.
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Classic is just how it is, and some classes are just bad. I rolled a ret pally in vanilla thinking cool armor and spells, self healing, I’ll be great. Had no idea what raiding was, dungeons, anything really. Took me forever to level it seemed like, went on my first raid in ZG and sure, they wanted me to heal but I said no, had no healing gear so I just went in as ret. I ended up offtanking the tigers on the tiger boss there, so sometimes you can do things like that. I still, overall, was terrible. Switched to a mage and then a warlock down the road, and I’ve tanked raids on that paly years later.
If you want to play one, or any of these goofed Classic classes, realize that you can either just do dungeons or just solo or group with friends, or if you want to raid, accept your assigned duty of being a healer and carry an offspec set of gear for dps or tanking in case you can as needed. If not, just pick another class and enjoy not beating your head against a wall. Some of us really want to save you the time of being frustrated because we’ve been there. Leveling to 60, get gear, then being benched or being told if you want to raid, you will heal. Its just the nature of how vanilla was.
Everything now is fairly balanced, we can all be decent healers, tanks or dps in whatever class or spec we want in retail. Back then, some specs were just terrible. Just the nature of the beast.
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This is absolutely the case… speaking as a Paladin that raid healed from 2004-2007. I moved on to a fire mage main and a combat rogue alt for obvious reasons, I craved the DPS so badly.
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