I have absolutely loved delves.
I have even gotten 5 (!) classes to 606 item level because I find it really enjoyable to learn about the different classes and have somewhat challenging content that forces me to learn how to play that class.
But it frustrates me that the next levels, despite being more difficult, don’t continue with gear upgrades. Personally, I would be fine making them much more difficult if that is what is needed to make the gear “worthy” - I’m the kind of person that spent four days trying to solo Melenia in Elden Ring without summons, so bring it on. (and I did btw, even the ng+ dlc+ version).
But I what I actually sense now is the need to “move on” - begin working on Mythic + and Heroic Raids after now clearing the raid on normal. I’m OK doing this simply because I found an old friend that still plays WoW, but I wonder if I would simply leave the game till pre-patch if this weren’t the case cause it feels like I’m being directed towards the “true end game”
I kinda get why it’s designed this way, but I also wish the later delves levels would at least reach a point to make it on par with heroic raiding or high mythic+ levels. I think we have a great starting point, but I hope for more.
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I really think that’s too much to hope for, unfortunately.
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I guess the follow-up question is:
Will they not allow a true parallel for solo content because it would lead to the DEATH of group content?
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I’m a few behind you. Have a shaman and warlock trailing around 595. Four others from 606-608 or so.
They’ve been a lot of fun though. Easily the thing that has caught and held my interest the most in TWW. Fantastic foundation and a ton of potential for them still.
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i wish i cud knock around in low tier delves if i want to without it messin up my vault n having to back n do a higher tier agin
Wait, what?
The vault will overwrite your higher tier rewards with lower tier ones?
yea unless muh brains not wrkin right it did yea, cause i had my t8 max or w/e it was n went and did a t3 just for kicks n it messed up my progress had to do another high tier
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I’m just doing 8s so I think that would make sure I didn’t see it but that’s pretty darn weak if true.
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That must be a UI bug because a lower tier delve isn’t gonna override a higher tier completion.
If that was the case then clearing WQ would’ve easily knocked out any 8 you’ve done.
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that wont happen it takes the lowest of your top 8 you can never get lower rewards for the week once you qualify for higher ones thats for the 3rd reward all of them work the same lowest of whatever number is needed to unlock the slot so lowest 4 of your top 4 for the second
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cause if you do four tier 8s and unlocked slot 1 and 2 tier 8 for vault, and you do a lower one and other world stuff those count as tier 1 and if it was on third slot then it would have been tier 1 that you saw
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Well if attendance in M+ is any indication, the vast majority of players hate M+ and only do it because they are basically forced to for gear upgrades. I prefer to JUST raid, but in order to keep up with everyone else, I am forced to do M+ grinding. I absolutely despise them…
However, delves got me to come back after quitting WoW in Shadowlands as a lost cause. Why? because they are fun, can be done at your own pace (mostly), offer similar rewards to M+ until T8, and allow me to finish them in whatever spec I like.
Or at least, they DID. Apparently there was too much fun being had, because now DPS Brann takes over a minute to dps down a single trash mob, holds no real threat, and tends to run far away from you only to teleport back. Also, now every tiny trash mob his like a truck, and 2+ mobs at once means my well geared DK tank cant out heal that damage… The raids so far are incredibly boring compared to previous xpacs, so I am honestly considering quitting again since the only reason to play is now gone.
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i just know my vault showed i was good for the 616 gear n i went and did a low tier, 3 i tink it was, and then chckd the vault again and it showed my gear reward had dropped to 5-whatevs, i had to go back n do another t8 to fix it
dats all i kno bros
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then put in a bug report and make a forum post on it in general discussion were everyone can come talk to you about it
I’m honestly in the same boat too, but I’d love to use it for both the solo grind (when friends aren’t available) and to run with guildies and friends.
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No, because solo content cant be properly balanced.
Delves, for example, are solo optional content. Not solo content.
Mage towers is the closest solo content has been designed to be properly challenging. If Delves were to kill group content it would be primarily because of their ease with bis rewards.
I think it’s less that and more that a huge amount of WoW’s difficulty as a game comes from things that are difficult or impossible to replicate in group content. There’s only so much health sponge / bullet hell you can put into a single piece of solo content when you don’t have things such as coordination, communication (Implicit or Explicit) and player consistency to factor in.
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Morbid curiosity does have me wondering how quickly the forums would burn down if T11 dropped hero track with myth track in the vault. Whose fire would be larger: The delve runners complaining that T11 is too hard, or the M+ runners complaining that ‘solo content’ gives equivalent rewrads?
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