I have to agree...this game is no longer for the casual player

[Snozh-malganis]

Your worst enemy is reality my guy.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

If it’s your reality then you’re way off.

[Theodas-hyjal]

The rewards in this game scale with effort, which is how it should be.

[Nathuu-illidan]

WoW is for casuals but if you expect to play with the full utilization of your class or cherrypick some old Icy Veins guides to make Retail look harder than it actually is… You’re flat out wrong.

It’s a terrible example as well, because those short rotation guides aren’t as detailed because they were intended for casual players. If you think playing an Outlaw Rogue was as simple as that in Vanilla you’d be sorely mistaken.

I really hope people whining doesn’t encourage Blizzard to go back to pruning and casualizing every class optimization. Make the game accessible, while maintaining a reward for mastering a class.

[Holigreen-bleeding-hollow]

@Tiffany-ravencrest

Well sometimes. There are times when you have to do something complicated at work and it takes time to figure it out. Your probably not going to do that in a game where you are trying to have fun.

Good thing WOW isn’t a job lol because I’d be getting fired. LUL

@Tiffany-ravencrest

On the other hand, some games just require a lot of grinding. That’s one reason I don’t do the economic professions in WOW. The closer you get to a level, the higher the failure rate. It’s just not fun.

Yea that can seriously get annoying, but I got my leatherworking to like 350 in classic… in retail it’s actually really easy, can get a bit expensive but is really easy compared to classic.

[Kragrosh-thrall]

There are classes like Havoc Demon Hunter or Marksmanship Hunter or Windwalker Monk that seem to have pretty straightforward/simple rotations that a new player should be able to understand enough to play well, in my opinion.

[Rhay-queldorei (Rhay)]

I’ve been playing for years. I still don’t play optimally. I’m ok with that.

[Shaddox-zuljin (Shaddox)]

yet you are on an alt hiding toon. Although no one cares wtf you are you just proved you whine and hate other people that do their own thing. gg

[Manather-area-52]

@Ellianaone-stormrage

There is no way a new player can play a class to its full potential from the start. No longer a ‘pick up game’.

If you go look at the damage breakdown of any caster in TBC it is literally all 1 button. An actual rotation is much better than before. And a game with complexity sustains more players.