I had low expectations but this xpac is a whole new level of bad

To sum up my experience in a* (edit grammar) shorter amount* (edit grammar) words so far: Boring, Tedious, Frustrating, Rehashing identical forms of quests and world events from DF, Relabeling slightly tweaked old ideas as new ones, QoL improvements being the only thing worthwhile and new feeling but then relabeled as features

I am sure i’ll get more than one comment blaming me for playing the game ‘too fast’ or something along those lines and somehow turn this around into being my own fault for not liking the game… I would say save it… but I know you wont, so have at it! I am just sharing my experience of the xpac so far, of how I play the game, the things I like and mostly dislike. I would also just love to point out to the people who cannot help themselves, when I am loving wow, I am not in the forums… Wonder what you cats are doing here!? :rofl: Sorry couldn’t help myself either.

Had low to zero expectations coming into the expac - while some people ranted and raved about the features announced at blizzcon all I saw was a bunch of rehashed features (delves, hero talents) and the only new addition to actually remotely look forward to would be warbands (dependent on how this was implemented). It honestly felt as though anyone excited either hadn’t played the several previous expansions where various forms of these features already existed - or they had short memories.

With all that said - everything about this expac was even worse than I had initially expected, with it being the more boring and lacking activities than any other xpac I have played. I am not even trying to say I predicted it being bad - because I did not predict this… You may be asking well if you had zero expectations how can something be a disappointment? That is with the baseline expectation of at least a couple months worth of random material to get through, maybe a few weeks to a month for the speed runners. In this expac, you can literally do the campaign quests in a day - they are boring but easy. You can finish up pathfinder pretty soon after. Sojourner quests take about a day or less if you rush them - again just boring and tedious, oh plus a random time lockout - which feels like a theme to this xpac. Before the first weekly reset I feel as though there is nothing to do or just go do a bunch of DF world quest type activities. Delves are at a stand still - your only basic option is to grind something whether it be pvp, brann levels in delves, professions (which are incredibly tedious and deserve their own part). My major point being I know that there is always a break between the xpac release and S1 starting… but that 2 week break should not feel like an empty gap with absolutely nothing to do. It should feel like you are bouncing between things hoping to be ready for the season to begin.

Now for each feature and what I think about them:

Professions (just because it came up): Literally identical to DF in their form factor - which was not exactly the most fun experience - at least one I didn’t want to re-do. Some professions you level up like crazy but get no points to spend - like my skinning which i got to 100 in zero time at all - however actually gaining resources is still incredibly slow and still getting low quality because of having so few points to spend. The balance to gathering to crafting feels WAY off - even worse than DF in the way it feels like you farm for an hour, then craft 2-3 recipes and are completely dry again. Also just thought it is worth mentioning - I wanted to get a missive to test if my renown was broken as it seemed to stop going up for one of my factions. I go to check the price of a ‘contract’, an inscription recipe, and the teir 3 option is 30,000G. That provides 15? rep per world quest completed or something like that? It is absolutely rediculous - So I figured hey I’ll see what ins/herb is like on my druid and boy was it ever slow. It makes sense why the recipe cost 30,000g but by the time it ever becomes cheap nobody will even want one. I probably would have hardly noticed all my gripes with crafting had there been more stuff to do.

Delves: Still to be determined - at this point they feel highly reminiscent of torghast* (correction auto-corrected itself before) due to being stuck at level 3 and it not being particularly difficult and not having to worry about deaths/lives. I could see how they could eventually be a fun way to gear when you aren’t in the mood to deal with groups. I am probably an outlier in that I do all my m+ and raiding as a pug, so these delves definitely appeal to be as a player. Although having to wait the 2 weeks again feels unnecessary - and only because of the lack of other things to do.

Warbands: Don’t get me wrong… I am a fan of the improvements they have made… But these are QoL improvements with a fancy unnecessary name and system. At first I was confused thinking my top 4/favorites were the only characters in my warband and I could only have one. I quickly realized this was just a visual application and that all your characters are in your warband. Okay great. Now what does it do? From what I have noticed, you get your account wide bank with gold storage, auto-learning tmog when selling + allowed to learn the tmog of items we can’t use, sharing currency in a more sensical manner, and more ability to share gear with alts… These are all great improvements, however they could have been added without the ‘warbands’ labeling and would have been just as good. It’s an unnecessary gimmick to me - likely to make us feel like they added more features than they really did.

Hero Talents: I had the least expectations of this one and it is even more laughable than I could ever expect. Literally anyone who ever talked about this as something they were excited for just marked them as when they started playing, nothing more. This ‘extra talent’ feature has been featured in at least 2 xpacs I played and probably even more than that. The covenant ability is also a rehash. BUT THEN WHAT THEY DID WITH IT!?
They literally re-arranged most of the talent bars and just placed some of the talents in the middle. At least that’s how it is on my hunter and DH where they seemingly didn’t get a single new ability. It’s all passive garbage. At least when they attempted this before they went all out and gave actual good and game changing abilities. This feels like the laziest attempt possible - it actually feels like a contest in laziness… Like ‘who can come up with the idea that takes the least amount of work - ok go!’. And then once again - I would normally pass these over and not even care about how bad or dumb it is - because there would be so many features and things to do and see - but nope not in this xpac, where we’re already sitting in the main city (lost) and scratching our heads about what to do.

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why u gotta be so hard to make happy bro

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You’ve been playing since 2018.
You know full well that WoW expansions can’t be fully judged before the season has even started. You even say this yourself. The biggest feature of TWW you label “Can’t yet review” but TWW you’re screaming is awful? How does that make sense?

If you’re not having fun then quit. But I’m convinced that the majority of the people complaining about it at this stage went in to TWW wanting to find issues to begin with.

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Yeah sure I have. Go through my Achievements.

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Bummer, OP. I think it’s great.

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There was some randomly for 2008 but most of the ones I found were 2018.
But you realise it validates my point even further if you’ve been playing even longer?

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Have you considered you actually had far more expectations than zero?

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Bro says let me sum up, then yaps like he’s got a PhD in yapping…

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All these people loving the game so very much with all this time to sit reading forum posts. If this isn’t just proving my point than I don’t know what else to tell ya. Also in very quick succession too… The forums are more lively then the game. Cannot say that is a suprise.

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Weird. I’m having tons of fun.

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Maybe your problem is you think you can only enjoy something when it runs your entire life

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Trust me, no one read your post.

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Not from me. At this point in DF I still hadn’t seen all the zones. Everything was big and cool and new and I was having a great time. In TWW I’ve already seen everything and now I’m just leveling alts and cleaning up side quests. And I’m not even playing more than DF. In fact I haven’t even logged in to TWW in a couple days. Just haven’t felt like it.

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I was very “meh” during leveling until we got to the wall in Hallowfall.

And then I looked down… and down… and down… and down… and it never stopped.

And then I thought, “Aha! HERE is the underdark expansion I was promised!”

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I think I’ve spent a combined total of 15 minutes on the forums since TWW launched.
I just happened to be on my mobile.

:slight_smile:

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Because the possibility of people momentarily reading the forums is one in a million, clearly.

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I’ve honestly enjoyed this so much more than Dragonflight already. Sure, theres some dungeons I don’t care about, but thats not expac specific.

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You’re not alone trust me. Though I do believe the amount of content currently available is fine (although some of it is just re-used dragonflight activities like the Theater event just being a new version of the Superbloom). There’s plenty of treadmills to tread atm, just not for gear.

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At this point, WoW is going to follow the formula that works. I play for my friends and not for the actual game itself. Once they’re gone, so am I.

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Nah, people don’t have phones, or second monitors, or breaks. You don’t actually play WoW unless you only play WoW, and sleep

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