I had chosen to be a healer

I did not choose to be a tank or dps to play M+. If I wanted to play a dps or a tank I would have chosen those specs and the appropriate classes. I chose my spec and I want to heal. I want to have the most appropriate secondary stats for the role I chose to play. I want to use the trinkets that help me the most in my role and the flasks, the potions, the food.

Why can dps or tanks play their role without having to heal or dispell and we have to play a role we didn’t choose? If there’s one spec that’s completely skewed, it’s healing. I have assigned affixes in the M+ that I have to damage. I’m expected to bring my gear and stats into the damage/heal hybrid, but I chose not to play dps.

My role at M+ is expected to play with 5 mandatory focus -tank, 3 dps and me- and also to focus and do damage on trash, mobs and bosses. And obviously since that requires unusual skills -playing 2 specs at the same time, one applied to players with their own will and the other to npcs that meet a mathematical pattern- never satisfies the team.
Neither do we.

Why dps and tanks can play the spec they want and healers can’t?

I really appreciate it if you take my damage talents out of me. It will be the only way that healers return to our origin.

Blizz, watch the Battle for Azeroth cinematic again.
You made Anduin Wrynn stand in battle, throw Shalamayne to the ground, and heal the Alliance because he’s a healer, because it’s “his thing.”
Let us healers do our thing.

You are behaving as Varian did when Anduin went to Velen; not understanding his wishes and what he wanted to be, not what was “expected of Anduin”.

Let us play the spec we choose. We are tired of the hybrid.

I had chosen to be a healer.

https://youtu.be/jSJr3dXZfcg?t=171

27 Likes

Nothing’s stopping you from playing how you want to play.

I’d not have responded if I hadn’t seen the “remove damage talents” comment, to which I say

36 Likes

I am not tired of the hybrid at all. Depending 100% on another player to win regardless of how well you play is terrible design. If anything, down with the trinity. Put in more mechanics that depend on the BEST player in the group and not the worst.

There’s nothing more frustrating than using every cooldown right and watching your character die with no way to stop it because your healer is bad.

Or healing 5 million more hp than the enemy healer in a solo shuffle round, then losing because your dps forget they have offensive cooldowns.

Or for tanks, it’s doing a reasonable pull and watching your group accumulate 17 deaths as you stand there guessing who has their monitor on.

7 Likes

My only job is to deal damage. I will not be using any personal cool downs or rallying cry because my job is to damage.

It’s crazy when healers ask me to use a healthstone or whatever, because that’s your job.

21 Likes

Because. There’s a bunch of those in SL 3 and 4 who kept asking for being able to DPS as a healer and never wanted to have a moment where they weren’t mashing buttons, its why they did just that. :o:

3 Likes

I run lots of stuff, and I will say this to the OP.

If you don’t want to dps then don’t. Most groups won’t kick you if you healing numbers are high and your dps numbers are low. At the end of the day if no one dies you did a good job. If you do decide to dps you and no one dies you did a better job.

Now you won’t be invited to the top tier groups with this mentality but then again most people can’t be in those group so meh.

9 Likes

A good tank/dps uses any heals/defensive cooldowns/etc as necessary, just as a good healer tosses out damage between heals. It is a team effort.

18 Likes

Good DPS and tanks use healing and utility abilities… and good healers cast damage spells when there is nothing to heal.

Next thread, please.

14 Likes

why are you invisible

4 Likes

I stopped M+ entirely because of this. Its gear rewards are so good, however, that for a raider, i was required to do M+. I have since left that guild but many others “encourage” aka socially peer pressure you into doing M+ because the gear is just so good.

I chose to be a healer too, but even in raid healers who don’t damage are starting to be considered less than. My brain is not wired to swap between damaging and healing. It just isn’t. So for me, it’s personal.

5 Likes

Tanks and DPS absolutely heal themselves and should be dispelling if they have the ability to. It’s a team effort meant to use all utility from everyone.

If I’m in M+ on my Balance Druid, you bet I’ll toss out a heal or a dispell. Tanks consistently heal themselves, too.

The only time you need to do damage is when people don’t need healed.

Run with friends or guildies or a community and stop listening to the small percentage of people or pugs that keep telling you nonsense.

And let’s keep in mind that there are at least three healing specs designed around doing damage to heal.

Edit to add: Seffer is right. You only speak for you, not for others.

4 Likes

OP you’re a singular and your opinion is of your own. You don’t represent any but yourself so stop speaking as you are many and legion.

I enjoy dpsing as a healer weaving between.

Also may I add as a DPS or as a tank I heal myself and others.

I use Word of glory on my prot paladin on those who need it when I don’t and shield others. I heal myself and others on balance when it’s looking as the healers struggle at parts.

You can play as you want but I prefer to be versatile and help in any way available. The fun of a hybrid.

7 Likes

I really dont mind dpsing between heals . But when i play dps or tank i also font mind the healer just healing.

I heal too. If I have time I throw out dots, and other attacks because why wouldn’t I?

The amount of drama in both directions over healers healing/not healing is getting so ridiculous.

Last time I checked, dungeon groups were not unionised. We can step out of our roles from time to time if it helps the group.

5 Likes

If you are playing this game and choose to ignore your dispel, interrupt, CC, or purge regardless of any role that is on you.

There is so little effort in applying a dot.

3 Likes

I want to summon a light spawn swarm that taunts the target & deals 777k dps!! Even against DHs , DKs & Warlocks in my own group!
:boom::sun_with_face: :dracthyr_lulmao:
Embrace the light of my gnomieness!

1 Like

Do people need to be healed? No
Are you out of mana? No

Unless the answer to one of those is yes, youre free to dps.

I dont get how this was ever an issue, or how people keep making it one.

8 Likes

The alternative is having a game where either (1) all the content is so hard that healers have 0 downtime and have to use every GCD on a heal; or (2) there is still downtime, but instead of DPS, healers just… do nothing?

I think both of those are bad. I like it when I feel I contribute to dps as a healer, even if it’s just a smidge. Besides, DPS do have to heal “Use your defensives, use your defensives,” and DPS are expected to do other stuff —like kicks and other utility. And finally, a 0 damage healer means you are no longer viable in the outdoor world, and can’t quest, as a healer, which is almost the case right now as it is and I hate feeling like I have to switch to feral or something just to do a quest.

Pretty much the only option is the way things are rn. Healers should do some damage, however small.

1 Like

Dps are expected to use defensives and raid wide defensives too.

Why am I expected to bring heath pots when we have healers?

Tanks most definitely have healing abilities, why should they use them if there is a healer present?

Interesting logic.

2 Likes

Ima stop you there.

M+ are considered “challenge mode” content, where you are supposed to beat the timer.
They were designed so that you have to play outside your role. That’s why dps take defensives, purges. Tanks help offheal and such. Healers purge, dispell, help with say… explosives.

If you want to ONLY heal, perhaps M+ isn’t for you.

Speak for yourself, not others. Every healer I know enjoys dpsing AND healing. Myself included.
The fact resto shaman got acid rain and storm keeper… Um yes? Literally free dps with minimal effort.
No one is asking you to tab dot flame shock for extra damage + easy lava surges, but I’ll do it ALL day. Free. No charge.

4 Likes