Wasn’t you. Someone else said that anyone who partakes in things they don’t like is a hypocrite
Things like using TF items while not liking them
Twisting words 101. I never said I did not care for gear. I said I did content for the fun vs. someone who is doing it for gear. Getting rewarded for doing content I enjoy is why I like the game far better right now. Getting even better rewards for content I do not enjoy is why I don’t raid or doing M+. So even if raiding was the only way to be above 370 IL I still would not do it because it is not fun. That is also why I said that even though I have never gotten a 425 TF I sure love it.
Except those examples are very common in everyday life and there are a ton more.
You said it isnt rational, as in it doesnt make sense, but there are many logical argumements as to why someone can hate TFing even though they may end up with something they want. Then theres also the fact that a 425 chest with the worst traits is going to tick me off.
If you chose scenerio B over A there is no internal struggle for you so yes you benefit from making blizzard change the game. I understand why you guys hate it but you could just as easily adjust yourself so that you look at it in another manner.
Yet you were calling out gear addicts…
Yet you were calling out gear addicts…
Then why were you talking about them being “beneficial”? Beneficial for whom?
I could adjust myself but then again, no matter how I adjust myself, I still prefer Scenario B and thus will fight to get scenario B.
I wasn’t though. By “lazy drug addicts” I meant people who refuse to do harder content but expect to be rewarded with the dopamine rush that is TF. If gear is their drive then so be it I suppose. But if that were actually the truth they wouldn’t be doing just WQs
I think you and I went two different directions tbh.
It isn’t rational. Doing dishes enables you to eat off clean ones next time. Don’t you like that ?
Exercise makes you feel good - don’t you like that.
Drinking water prevents you from dying - don’t you like that.
Eating vegetables gives you energy, enables you to see, etc, etc. - dont’ you like that.
Paying bills means you get to buy more things - don’t you like that.
Working means you get money - don’t you like that.
Getting a shot - well it depends on your view of shots whether more harm or good but I assume you think you benefit - so again prevents you from being sick.
I don’t get it. Why would you hate any of these things.
But you just said you do content for the gear and the gear is your “fun”. You are literally calling out the kettle. Also calling any one sitting in their chair playing games “lazy” or “hard working” is just ridiculous.
What if you go into kills and weekly chests fully expecting the piece it says it will give you? Are we gonna keep changing the game because people can’t reign in their emotions?
I go into each weekly cache expecting a 410 item.
If it upgrades that’s fantastic!
If it drops a 410 that’s fantastic!
Any other thought beyond that is useless emotions on some silly pixels.
Doesn’t this mean you and the op like gambling though? You say wf/tf is gambling because the op says it is… kinda like running raids and dungeons in the hope of getting gear?
Isn’t it strange to call someone a gambler when by his words we all are? Keep in mind that getting wf/tf is no different than gear dropping from a boss that you’re hoping to get.
Yeah think we just went opposite ways
You took a tongue in cheek comment and ran with it. Sorry it bothered you so much
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I wont go through the whole list, but I will use this as an example.
I dont like doing dishes because it is time consuming and sometimes involves wet, gross food and scrubbing, but I do it because I know you have to have clean dishes to use again tomorrow.
I dont like TFing because of a lot of reasons, but I will put that 425 cloak on because I know it will make me do more damage.
I like doing dishes because I just put them in the dishwasher and push the buttons and they come out clean and all my counters are nice and neat again.
Dishwashers are annoying so I dont use ours, but it doesnt change the point.
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I dunno if I ever met anyone who said that about their dishwasher. This surprisingly might be a first for me in a very long time. For some in my family with 5 kids it might be the best thing they’ve ever used.
I guess if you live alone and have very little to do I guess that makes sense.
I used to not used a dishwasher and I still liked doing dishes. It makes the house neater and I liked the process of cleaning them in hot sudsy water.
It really is how you want to look at things. You can make yourself hate things that are benefical to you.
Titanforging isn’t good at all
I would have it taken out of the game if I could…so would a lot of people
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Define a lot?
I’d wager you might need more than the raid community to achieve that goal with them being on the lower end of the sub count I’m guessing.
The ones you’d need are the ones benefiting from it while they do their daily world quests and occasional dungeons. I just don’t know if you could find enough support that wouldn’t do more harm than good.
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That’s exactly like the people who say “Just don’t use your flying mount!” when talking about flying vs people who think flying hurts the game.
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Usually I end up pretty much cleaning the dishes before they go in the dishwasher anyway. If I dont and just throw them in there with minor effort then they still dont get really clean and I end up back to washing them by hand anyway.
Sorry for the tangent.
We could argue back and forth about a lot of stuff all day. Like… how having mounts be purchasable with dubloons wouldnt hurt you at all cause its all how you look at things, and you are choosing to hate something that would be beneficial to you.
Anyway, this is all kind of going off topic so I think I will mosey away for awhile.