I give up on monk, the forums and the community

Classes Monk
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So I was trying to make daily posts just to see if blizz would notice us, since they notice mages andwarlocks every time they cry about their clases being bad

In my opinion one of the reasons why we get ignored it’s because our voices dont reach them and by that i mean we don’t make enough posts in the forums or have a content creator popular enough to be heard by blizz.

Anyways i really tried to make that happen doing a daily post asking for some tunning but the community is just way too toxic i dont wanna continue this anymore with zero support (not that i asked for it) and only getting hate from those trolls trying to flag all my posts as spam (which is not otherwise mods wouldn’t restore them).

I’m just not sure if i care enough to keep playing monk and trying to get hear by blizz and do something abouut it

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I wouldn’t take things too personally, General Discussion forum is a cesspool.

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Devs don’t play WW or BrM.
They don’t care that Brews make up less than 7% of ALL tanks in keys.

In 14’s, there are only 277 brews and 11,958 prot paladins. YEAH GUYS TOTALLY NORMAL NOTHING TO SEE HERE BOYS.

With WW specifically, it’s also the lowest played DPS class in keys.
Paladin being the highest (SHOCKER I KNOW)

DUDE there are more SHADOW PRIESTS and AUGS than WW’s.

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Of course more people play paladins. Its easier and stronger. Monks dont need buffs, especially brewmaster. Its low because its harder to play and other tanks such as paladins are too strong. Lets not forget monks are the most stat dependant tank in the game where primary stats give them stagger scale, making bm weaker with lower gear.

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PHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Sure dude. Sure. Give me at least 1 metric where Brew is on par with other tanks. Not “better”, but “on par”. I’m making it even easier for you. At least one. Go. I’ll wait.

You must be an undercover dev, who is a prot pala main. Because you’re problem the only person, who actually thinks brews don’t a buff in keys.

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I do not think you’ll find a single person to support your opinion that brew and ww are fine.

In fact all actual data, from logs, to keys being pushed, shows that both those specs are underperforming at a record low level.

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Said Alletrat while waist deep in it. :laughing:

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lol so true.

I only do it because I am over brew being gimp in M+. I try to be constructive and respectful.

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This isn’t entirely genuine if you’re arguing based on balance though.

Monk has always had very low representation comparatively, and paladins have ALWAYS been near the top.

Even historically, during seasons where BM’s and WW’s were more competitive, their representation is often lower than Paladin, Hunter, Warrior, mage, etc.

And it’s not only because of balance issues.

Ret Paladin, if you take wow in its full history from classic-now, is literally a famous meme for how often it was bad, but still had insane representation because people love its fantasy/playstyle.

And I’m not arguing with you that BM and WW aren’t in a real rough spot right now, but just making a point to your “there are this many people playing X compared to Y.”

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In about 100% of instances, what has happened in previous xpacs is fully irrelevant. We don’t play today’s WoW based off of Shadowlands or BFA. or Cataclysm.

Let’s be honest here, A LOT of players are meta sheep. The growth of VDH in Shadowlands was astronomical for keys, given how OP they were in Season 1. (I was there to witness it)

When we look at the top 10,000 players let’s say. Or even 50,000 players. Heck. look at top 200,000 even and see how low Monk representation is. And meta is everything for competitive players.

Out of all MDI regions, that Mists run was the only time we saw ANY monk. And they lost by like 8 minutes in a 9 key. Just tank’s damage output difference is inane. VDH did THREE times more damage in AoE. THREE TIMES MAN. THere is ZERO EXCUSE for that. And these are TOP 0.001% players in WoW.

Paladins have drastically gone after their recent buffs. They went from BrM-tier up to S-tier over night.

There is absolutely no way to sugar coat this.

Also.

Here we go.
DF S1 - There were MORE DH dps than paladins. There were far more hunters and warriors than paladins.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-1/all/world/leaderboards

SL S1 - same thing. Paladins are not in the top.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-sl-1/all/world/leaderboards
There were same Brews as prot warriors, despite warriors existing since launch

Same goes for BFA. And in BFA, there were 1% more Brews than Bears, despite Bear existing in WoW since day 1.

So your arguement that paladins have higher representation due to fantasy is a load of :poop:

My arguement is purely based on a balance.
You’re arguing that paladins are top tanks (along side with warriors) due to fantasy popularity. Yes, people who push past 11’s care so much about fantasy.

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Yeah It’s really bad here for monk, and its not a recent phenomenon. I started in DF and made it this far but probably my last season in the game. If history is any indicator, tuning isn’t coming soon.

Seems like an unbelievable statement at this point. This whole expansion doesn’t seem to have much rhyme or reason to their balance decisions. Remember 11.0.5 when they decided to buff Frost DK and Mage despite them being overwhelmingly strong. I’m not sure if that was based on gameplay data or feedback. But this cause a massive key protest causing them to respond, which might have been the first feedback they listened to.

REF: https://www.wowhead.com/news/expected-class-tuning-changes-with-patch-11-0-5-class-writer-opinions-348659

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Monks are by far the best single target tanks in the game. If you need to tank a boss and need a giga tank, you found your tank. With armor being low, verse has lots of value and stagger serves as damage reduction that is not soft capped by damage reduction. These same bonuses also make monks good against magic damage as well.

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Ha, good joke

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Monks should not get buffed because 90% of the player base does not want to main a monk to learn it or have the brain copacity to conprehend how monks are balanced. If monks become “viable” for average people, they become of of the most overpowered classes in the game.

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man i really hate when people say something along the lines of “your opinion is trash because we dont even do 10s”, but, i dont know where you get your info if you’re barelly doing 8s, how do you know monks are as strong as you say ? where are yoyu getting that info ? because the only reason why top guilds bring a tank monk it’s because mw and ww are way too weak to bring one, and they want the mysthic touch buff, and mythic tanking is a spot where the only thing that matters is that you suvive the tank busters, that means that any tank is viable on Mythic raiding

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No they should be buffed to be able to perform the same as the other tanks.

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Monks have the same issues as paladins had in wrath. You cant buff monks unless they get a rework or they will be overpowered.

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that’s probably one of the duumbest reason i’ve ever heard, but i guess everyone has the right to share their opinion

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Weird, ret got buffs in wrath and were in fact not overpowered, and didn’t get a rework

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Weird. 80% of the playerbase were ret in wrath. But they were not op. Wow your intelligence truely is astounding.