I feel like the games social aspect kinda died since the new social contract thing came out

It shouldn’t have been removed. Why would anyone not be able to handle hearing things? It’s not really my problem anyway.

Yes, it should have. It’s considered inflammatory to call people jerks.

This is irrelevant. What is relevant is the Code of Conduct you agreed to.

It was your post that was removed. And you sure do seem to care enough about it to post in a thread no one’s posted in for 12 hours. :dracthyr_shrug:

It’s not inflammatory to call anyone a jerk. I was called a jerk and that post wasn’t removed last I checked. The hypocrisy is always wild with people.

Yes. It is. It’s called an insult. And it’s against the Code of Conduct you agreed to.

And again, you also were giving misinformation on top of it. So it was considered trolling/inflammatory and the moderation opted to remove it so as not to incite more responses off of it.

Yet here we are…

If it’s not reported, it doesn’t get looked at.

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I’d be right there with you if we were talking about RP versus OOC (Out of Character) chatter.

Most people on most servers are being themselves when they talk to other people as themselves whether they’re playing a Man’ari Draenei or a Pandaren Monk. When someone has low DPS in a LFR, and someone insults their numbers and breaks out the profanity, they’re not saying that about the character, even though the place that all of this is happening is in a video game. They’re not like, “Grr, I hate Orcs,” so they demean an Orc on principle.

It being in a fantasy universe has no bearing, at all, on one of the requirements of hanging out in that universe is that you conduct yourself in a civil manner in public spaces.

It seems kind of toxic to try and enforce positivity even when it isn’t appropriate. I think the way you get more negative communities. Its why heroes of the storm got worse then lol and dota

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No one is enforcing positivity. They’re enforcing rules against insulting people.

You can call an idea bad without insulting someone over it.

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If you haven’t learned by now that it’s totally possible to not be “positive” to someone within the bounds of the TOS, I don’t know what to tell you.

Like, for example, I disagree with you and I think that your takes on this subject aren’t helpful or warranted. I feel like just because you grew up while the internet was the Wild West that you naïvely thought that it would always stay that way, where the rules of a civil society would never apply, but that was never the norm. Society had to catch up to the technology, and now that it’s ubiquitous, now people are enforcing the common rules of acceptable conduct again. You can accept that and conduct yourself accordingly, or you can let the rules drag you down into the penalty volcano until you lose your account.

See? Not positive, but not against the rules :dracthyr_tea:

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There are limitations on even minimum standards to that. You can’t go many places naked for example. I know I am using extreme examples but it feels like the fear of being seen as negative in of itself is now an issue and I think that is to far.

And the game doesn’t let you get fully naked.

I don’t know where you’re getting this from. On a daily basis people can be negative without breaking rules.

It isn’t that I disagree with you, at least not entirely. I just believe its gotten to the point it is having a chilling effect on most interactions in game. Your concept that what was there first isn’t what was natural but what came later was is… well its wrong.

I am not someone who would advocate for unrestricted speech. I just don’t believe negativity in itself is an issue.

Edit: To add to this it seems like all the system has done is reward passive aggressiveness

I keep wanting to add to this… you are arguing that the more moderated experience is natural when without active enforcement from higher powers it would collapse and revert to the wild west instantly…

Negativity isn’t an issue. Insults, harassment and derogatory comments towards players is an issue to Blizz, who deems those things against their Code of Conduct.

There is a difference.

Not really. I’ve seen people actioned for passive aggressive behavior around here. Heck, even I’ve had posts removed that were passive aggressive.

Negativity isn’t the issue, toxicity is. You can be negative without being toxic.

Same.

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I think we are arguing for two different things or at least two different degrees. I am not suggesting a free for all gamer words and all.

I’ve seen the report system be abused (granted in a edge case over a massive number of pvp games in a long play session) but it can be abused. I just feel the scale is tipped a bit im not advocating for the table to be flipped.

Maybe! I can’t tell anymore. LOL It could be a semantics issue throwing things off or we’re coming from two different perspectives. So we might be miscommunicating. Sorry if I’m misunderstanding you. I’m also not feeling well, so it may be throwing off my comprehension. :dracthyr_heart:

You’re comparing me to the architect of the holocaust? That’s a new low, even for this place.

Some people have no sense of proportion.

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It is a bit of a shame how quickly this topic invites hyperbole. Its difficult to talk about because everyone myself included sees the worst case scenario being presented against their preferred version of the game.

When usually its a argument about degrees.

The best degrees is 90.

Its just right.

Second best is 98 Degrees

Let’s keep it between 45-52 if we’re talking F.