I don't understand how multiboxing is different that botting

Botting is when a PC plays the player. Even tho a player is doing something it is still a program that takes that input and sends to the other characters.

A player is playing one character and a program is playing every other character.

That sounds like botting to me, with just extra steps

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This is incorrect. It’s just duplicating the commands to multiple screens at the same time.

Botting is LITERALLY “hands off” playing.

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You do realize that the game itself takes your input and sends it to your character, even when you’re uniboxing, right?

Those extra steps make it “not botting”.

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The program isn’t playing the character. The characters can’t go off and do something different than the players’ active decision in that moment.

(In fact, multi-boxing can take a bit of extra labor by the player. If one character gets killed, they have to actively change so they’re only moving the one player back and potentially keep track of the others in the meantime. A botting program would be making those decisions and actions instead of the player.)

On my character I push ‘w’ and my character goes forward, I am directly controlling my character

Botting is when a program controls a character

In order to multiboxing when I push ‘w’ on one character a program see’s that command and pushes ‘w’ for every other character. A program is effectively controlling that character, it doesn’t matter how dumb the program is (the fact it isn’t able to go off and do it’s own) you cannot get around the fact a program is controlling the other characters, albeit using your inputs

I have no problem people using multiple accounts, I have no problem when people alt tab to control each account but when someone uses a program to make life easier that is a bot

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And that’s not automation, that’s replication.

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Because they dont understand it and people hate what they dont understand, also they extremely jelly their mom/dad wont buy them a 2nd account.

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What you’re refusing to see is that the program doesn’t decide it is time to push “w”. You do. I could dual-box with two keyboards and push “w” on both, controlling two characters with zero software involvement. I could create a fancy mechanical setup where pushing a key on one keyboard pushes it on twenty, and each is connected to a different computer running a different client. How many clients my keyboard input go to does not change the fact that I, the player, pushed the key to have the character(s) move forward.

A bot is pre-programmed to tell the character to move forward at a particular point in its activity - without the player pushing “w” at all.

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Sure i can.
What if i use a mechanical button, and no software?

that is not what a bot is

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Dead horse, love how these topics are hot for a week or two, then die once more…

My guess is that you are having a stroke right now?

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because a human is controlling the character, a bot is when character is fully controlled without human input.

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whomever buys a sub is making blizzard money

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One of the major differences is money. Multi-boxers pay Blizzard more for their share of entertainment and access to WoW than you or I or any standard customer does. In order to multi-box, a player must have multiple accounts with Blizzard and that means more money for them. Most botters only have the one account.

Automation is automation as far as I am concerned. The argument that a multi-boxer and a botter are “different” because the multi-boxer is actually hitting keys is a bit moot. A botter must also “hit keys” in order to setup the path and program for their bots. Sure, afterwards they can run automatically but I do not see this as any different from the automation that duplicates the keys hit by a multi-boxer. The only difference is the “real time” activation of keys versus the “pre-play” hitting of keys a botter has to do to setup their bot’s program.

Automation is automation at the end of the day. But money also speaks VOLUMES to Blizzard at the end of the day. And Blizzard are quite happy to accept more money for more access to their game. Why else would they want to condone a practice that practically eliminates the community aspect of an MMORPG?

Money talks! :wink:

Thanks.

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And that a pretty major distinction. One key stroke per one action per character is not automation.

The 2004 reenactment is looking really good, guys. I could’ve sworn I was reading a thread from vanilla.

I’m sure, after 16 years, Blizzard will finally ban multiboxing. You keep holding on to hope!

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No it’s not. There is a difference, and that difference is one is allowed, and the other is not.

Lol. Have you ever used the auto run key? That could be considered a form of automation. You want to ban everyone who has ever done that?

And replication is not automation. They are different. Just because you’re too ignorant to recognize that, doesn’t make it any less true.

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The similarity is multiboxers and botters use a program to play their character. A program moves their character forward, backwars, attacks, etc… it doesn’t matter if a person triggers the command the fact is a program uses those imputs and plays every other character which is botting

Actually that’s not botting, that’s replication which is allowed.

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You are just trying to give it another name but the action is similiar to a bot, a program is playing 2+ characters as you are playing one