Genuine curiosity/question: if you dislike playing with people so much, why do you play an MMO? Why not single player games?
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I hear you.
I do not like many ppl. The egos, the oddities - I mean, I could go through every adjective. Its such a huge turn off to me. I find most ppl so boring and not thinking outside of the box. I also hate ppl that can’t communicate after an argument.
I’ve grown so much, if someone is better looking than me, more successful, ect It doesn’t bother me. I’m happy for them. My best friend is so beautiful inside and out, very successful with her career. She does more than me but there is no ounce of jealousy on my end. Love her. I can’t tell you how many guilds I’ve joined and girls write me off or do not acknowledge me bc I am pretty. It used to be painful. On the flip, I’ll trash talk someone that I’m like, “I don’t get it.” Generally privately to a friend I love the idiots who spread my stuff around on Moon Guard though /s heh
I used to be pretty gud. I just do not care anymore. There is nothing to stroke for my ego in wow and I certainly do not care what ppl think of me or what I can or cannot do.
Must be an only child thang, I am used to doing stuff my way and on my own.
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Makes sense. 
I agree with you, solo end game is a nice touch. Torghast was supposed to be that, but people shat on it. Not sure if Blizzard will try something else, as investing in solo content kind of promotes the idea of not playing with other people which is MMOs usually try to do, otherwise it will feel like a complete instanced solo game.
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Unfortunately, bad things happen when competitive players see the tiniest chance of an upgrade from “boring content” and start lobbying to change that content into something more suited to their playstyle.
(eg: BFA warfronts)
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This seems quite possible. I do have a half-sister, but she’s 11 years older than me, so I grew up as an only child, too.
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Are you open to solo open world content where you may stumble into other strangers but don’t necessarily need to group up with them but it would be nice to? Like vanilla wow. If so, classic is the game for you.
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I think the best way for them to approach it is to spin it as something for Raiders to do on their downtime.
And it would be. It would just be the main end-game for non-raiders, too. That way, it doesn’t look like they’re encouraging being asocial.
Thing is, I know plenty and plenty and plenty of people who are like:
Group 1: I only want to raid.
Group 2: I only want to do mythic+.
Group 3: I only want to do pvp.
Group 4: I only want to do solo content/open world.
They don’t want to do anything else. I’d say most people are like that. You may see Group 1 do group 2 and group 2 do group 1 stuff a lot, but in general they prefer to only do 1 thing.
So having another thing for raiders to do during their downtime would be: as long as they are not forced to do it (read as: it won’t give them any benefits to raid) then it is fine.
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I can’t stand how much influence raidloggers and M+ hamsterwheelers have over casual/solo content. That’s what ruins the solo experience.
It’s like - “you want to log in twice a week for 2 hours to wipe on a boss? Great, but let us do our own thing please and stop whining about it. Thanks.”
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Because they are the biggest whiners. I used to play with them.
They do not want to have to do “more stuff/grinding” then they have to. Hmmm.
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I don’t understand, if you don’t want to be forced to do group content, why do you want to force them to do solo content? There shouldn’t be any “forcing” here, all content should be optional with their own progression on its own.
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I don’t want to force anyone to anything.
I want options I find attractive where presently there are none.
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Because its raiders way or the highway.
They complain left and right if they have to do ANYTHING extra or “wOrk” because they might miss out on a precious 1% damage increase or something. Total joke. So yeah, keep pushing the majority of the players to the side for these folks.
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I’m too lazy to read the thread, but in case someone has said or says “You have Torghast!!!1” (because this happens a lot):
Rebuttal is “Torghast doesn’t give you gear. You can’t progress in Torghast without gear. Thanks and have a good day.”
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There’s quite a bit for a Solo player to work for right now, it’s just that it’s heavily gated behind time (either invested or because of daily questing limitations).
While I can understand wanting to still have a goal to work towards after you hit the limits of that you need to understand that not everything can be an endless treadmill; Even Mythic Raiders will eventually have nothing to do.
At some point you just reach the end of the walkway and need to wait for them to build more.
I’m still waiting for the next big mmo that doesn’t focus around raiding or group based PvE. If MMO’s have taught me anything it’s that people aren’t fun to group with. I’m having fun being a solo player in ff14 however
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Sounds like you don’t want to play an MMO.
???
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Ff14 unfortunately still pushes group based PvE onto its players. I’m talking about an mmo that doesn’t have those things
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