I don’t believe it’s good practice to give away these rare TCG items and here’s my perspective

What is the percentage of older collectors compared to people who started playing this game years later?

Of these “collectors” - how many actually care?

I myself started in Wrath, was a newbie, played Cata, got some things, I didn’t play Pandaria due to personal family reasons, returned in Legion and only then started to want to collect, like things from the mage tower, raid, etc…

So I can’t have any way to access items from before I started playing? Considering that theoretically, I am the new player who should be retained in the game…

There are some things that I find… strange, in this matter…

For example, I haven’t seen anyone wearing the Elite PvP set for DK from Pandaria anymore (the last time I saw it was in Pandaria, at most in Legion). The dark red one (wine color).

There might indeed be some players out there with that set… but honestly? It’s not even considered “a rare item” anymore if no one is seen wearing it.

What’s the fun if millions of players, or potential new players (with Metzen back and new expansions coming, we might see an increase in players), join the game, and they only get to know a few sets or items by looking at Wowhead?

There is a simple answer to this: Provide a way to get items of a similar (but still slightly different) appearance. Many have asked for the Horde bike that Blizz cant legally provide, but can they slightly alter the look and colour details and give it a different name and let players get that? Im not sure but logically I cant see why not. There are ways to both preserve unique items and provide stuff that is intrinsically almost the same.

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No I wasn’t. I just play the game. You can too if you want to as well.

Buying things people shouldn’t is not a sacrifice.

I wonder if the statute could ever just run out on that too.

Being an Aussie Im not up on US law which is why I’m uncertain. But logic would say that if a prize in a competition was a red hat with a green feather, and you later provided a green hat with a red feather that would be creatively a different thing. But - as I say - not up on the relevant laws/regulations etc.

Yeah I’m not in Cali and don’t have any access to what their agreement was. I just wondered because some things do have statutes of limitations. I would like to see it or some variation of it.

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Agreed. I have it because I was around and playing during the very short timeframe it was made available, but I wouldnt object to everyone else having the chance to get at least a variant of it. Its not like it was a skill-based reward; it was just be there, vote, and win.

I came back just after it was over. And yeah it falls under promotional, so it should definitely come back if they ever are able to do that.

How does it hurt collectors?

These are digital items…

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i dont have problem with collectors but i feel the problem is WoW its a global game and the TCG items only got selling in the USA so… only a few selected people can get the chance for the item feels bad

I don’t think it’s good practice to cry on message boards over every little thing but here we are.

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If you mean the cards, they weren’t just sold in the US. We had (and still do I think) card sets for sale at our local game shop. The things that came from them we I think mostly sold on places like ebay and other game item sites.

No I can’t. I practice constantly and my reflexes are just not as good as a raider’s. I don’t just do dummies. I find opportunities to practice mechanics. I don’t log on unless I am committed to getting better. But my endgame is world quests. This is most people. You were born lucky. And that’s it.

Do you deserve to be dismissed just because it is easy to do so? Absolutely not. Your feelings matter. The fact that you value what you got from being born lucky (plus putting in time, which I admit) means it has value to you. Something that has value to a person should not simply be yanked away from them simply because it is easy to be dismissive and say, “You didn’t earn it,” which is always the case when someone isn’t in your shoes.

It’s a sacrifice of the money they put in. They gave up something real to get that item. Saying it should be yanked away (or the rarity and specialness should) just because you feel it should, means your feelings should not be considered because you’re not considering the other person’s. You’re just dismissing them.

It’s the same feelings. You feel you worked for your item. And you did. You put in time. You did something not fun (coordinating with a group) so you could have something rare and special.

The other person did that too. They did something not fun, like working at a job, so they could buy something rare and special. Yes, you feel this effort shouldn’t be respected or valued, but they feel it should, just the same as you feel your effort should be respected. Inherently I tend not to think a lot of skill lords who have it easy, can do anything they want, barely have to practice, but I do not have to share your valuation of your skill to respect it.

I’m not on a side here, except treating all rare and special items the same. If some are off the table for devaluation, then all should be. And if some are on the table for re-release, all should be, but each should be considered carefully and nobody’s feelings should simply be dismissed without being taken into account.

(Also don’t change the magic rooster to an uglier model. Chicken battlepets looked nice before, but they were low-res. The high-res update is just bad-looking.)

In all honesty I had heard about the tabard from amazon prime a little while ago but hadn’t popped over to twitch to claim it yet, thx for the reminder :slight_smile:

Citation needed

These items are Blizzard’s intellectual property. It makes no sense for them to not use them in order to preserve value to third parties that doesn’t benefit them.

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Citation needed.

Is there some sort of video game gene I don’t know about? You seem to be obsessed with “you’re either born being able to play video games or you’re not and you just can’t play past this marker I created.” Like there’s no in between?

Oh darn. I can’t get Chinese takeout tomorrow.

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Your card is still very unique and rare despite some pixels that existed as part of a promotional event being made available by alternative means lol it doesn’t hurt TCG collectors whatsoever.

This is a load and you know it. Heroic raiders take people in raids all the time at all skill levels. You could have gotten the mounts if you wanted them.

I am legally blind in one eye with a couple pain disorders. I was not born lucky.

No they need therapy if they pay hundreds-thousands for objects in a game. They have a shopping addiction. Especially if they are “sacrificing” something they need instead. That’s a problem not worth encouraging.

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I’ve healed in Mythic+ and Raid successfully despite numerous mental disabilities and the requirement to wear glasses whenever I’m awake as I’m becoming increasingly short sighted I was extremely unlucky when it comes to genetics yet I still do it.

Addons are an amazing tool for accessibility :dracthyr_tea:

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it looks good, but its not 700 dollars anymore maybe like 20 or 30 max