Preach. 
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Agreed. Honestly if there was a transmog roll that awarded the appearance to the transmog roll winner separately from the loot roll, it would solve the issue and still encourage overgeared players to keep running LFR, too.
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That is an excellent idea.
Until someone holds out till all others have rolled and rolls the option that gives them the best chance of getting what they want., which, according to you, and others that defend the rolling need for Tmog, is within their right.
I have supported the idea of separate, independent rolls, and other ideas as well, to solve this issue, only to have what I pointed out in the first paragraph here, pointed out to me
now I have to tell you what you said too? haha no
you already
which is?
I cant give your answers for you, I am only asking you answer but you wont.
you literally tried to tell me that because you were an officer or something something that I couldnât even imagine what thatâs like and Iâve never had a team, honestly I dontk now what you are saying anymore, you just take like 3 of my words and quote me and then post some non-specific string of words
because as I stated what?
see how that works?
so you arent reading the thread, just answering specific people that answer to your nonsense? why am I wasting time talking to you then?
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Now everyone sees why I decided to tap out of this one early. lol The simple fact that you are still going, Alathea, is nothing short of impressive.
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the stats are better and low hero isnât much diff from max champion gear.
if you are pushing specific stat builds because⌠well you can, then the Champion gear could be better given wrong stats/ dead stats.
take healers. if damage is the priority, then mastery ends up being a dead stat in most if not all cases.
frankly I was merely entertaining the idea that he was some sort of important officer at some point, but the way he communicates is so confusing I canât imagine a real officer being successful in leading anything.
Like Iâm supposed to remind him of what he said, but also keep track of the tiny bits he quotes me on, while also telling me he already knows the answer so I donât actually need to answer.
Then just ignoring all my questions, as well as the rest of the topic
and he gets to only answer part of my sentences too
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Easy solution - donât show rolls publicly until everyone has rolled, and make it so that you can only roll Need on EITHER the gear piece OR the transmog piece, but not both.
And⌠this would be unpopular BUUUUUT another random idea (I dunno, itâs late), they could also just temporarily not allow gear from current endgame raids to award the transmog look/ability until a later time. So those who are actually wearing it for gear would have the look while wearing it, but youâd have to win the transmog item roll to get the ability to transmog it, at least until the next expansion. And the gear piece wouldnât just magically gift you the transmog look if you keep it sitting in your bank for a year - youâd have to go re-loot it or the transmog drop. Which would keep people from needing on it anyway so they could just transmog in a year.
So if you REALLY want it for transmog, you gotta win the transmog specific roll when the expansion is current. OR wait until next expansion. After that, the gear (or transmog item drop) will give you the ability to transmog it.
Just for clarification, do you mean only light one option for roll (need or Tmog), in which case, is that not skirting limiting what one can roll âneedâ on, which you, and others, have been against?
Just asking, as anyone that is forced to roll only for the Tmog, could complain about not being able to roll need and we are back here AGAIN.
No, you have to tell me what âclaimâ you are debating. But iâm ok if you donât have one.
The people in your LFG group are not your team. You are not there to help them but you also stated you canât solo LFGâŚso they are there to help you and you will take that help but you wonât give them âcharityâ to get ups because you want colors. You also donât care about beingâŚ
in addition to not wanting to help others becauseâŚ
LFG is where you being powerful go to collect transmog but not do charity.
I already answered this, are you reading at all?
Here it comesâŚ
The troll attempt because words are hard.
The COPIUM is real. Time to run off for you, hope you enjoy time with the other one who magically came backâŚ
Because he couldnât resist.
Oh the try hard trolling. Thanks for the laughs, i didnât expect much as you are probably an alt of the 2 i purposely quoted. Both of them always run away too. However in true fashionâŚ
The circular logic is amazing. Itâs really not a wonder you guys stop digging holes with your âlogicâ while you still can.
I mean sure but also yikes. THis would create a whole new way to complain about how confusing it would be. It really shouldnât be that hard.
This is off topic but the easiest solution is to have a âtransmog currencyâ if you want lfr looks you have to do LFR raiding, that would keep heroic /mythic raiders that want to farm looks in the LFR metrics.
Item drops, the transmog roll option becomes a âbuy this transmogâ button, in exchange for the currency that you get from each boss kill from LFR. The actual item goes to roll winner (supposedly someone who needs it)
Anyone who pays the price gets the appearance, so multiple ppl can get it at once, the rate of acquisition can be as slow as they want it to be for metrics, but needs to be completeable within the same season.
Another clause would be, you can only earn currency for transmog once you have outgrown your need for that ilvl, similar to the crest system where you can exchange âupâ but only after your character has gone above 463 for every transmogabble slot for LFR mogs, and then copy that template to normal and heroic , with mythic being pretty much as is (no transmog currency) - this last part is more to maintain metrics as they seem to intend it to be more than anything. Otherwise youâll inevitably cut playtime of a lot of ppl byâŚa lot
Its simple usually its for a guild run. Thats how i do pugs when i do guild raids my guild needs on everything they are allowed to for guildies. With that in mind we dont always win even with 12-15 people needing on it lol
No.
Letâs say a LFR set piece drops. The pop-up box for that piece of gear is divided into two clearly labeled options for the drop: Gear and Transmog
If you are eligible for the roll per usual, then youâll see the Need dice pictured under both Gear and Transmog, but once you press Need for either one, you cannot press the dice for Need on the other option anymore. So you have to pick whether you want to use your Need roll on the gear item for stats, or just the transmog, but not both.
So the dice is pictured and lit up for both options if youâre eligible to roll, but once you click Need for one, the other one is now grayed out. Which means people canât roll Need on both. Plus if you keep rolls hidden until everyone has rolled, you canât hold out to choose whichever your best chance option is because you wonât know. And you canât click both, either.
I suppose you could still leave Greed as an option for both sides, too. Not that it would really be used, but maybe for off-spec on the gear piece.
Yeah sorry, itâs like 4:30am, lol. Youâre right, it really shouldnât be that hard.
THIS is a great solution. I also like the parallel to how the crest system works when you exchange âupâ but after youâve outgrown your need for it.
Ok I need to sleep now. lol
Have a good night all
That clarifies that, just to note, I was in favor of the separate rolls, but also rolling need gets the item and the mog, maybe with reducing the gold from selling to 0 to prevent the âI need for mog and I need goldâ rolls. And if the rolls are hidden anyway, is should not matter, in the long run, if need gives 100% of the benefit from winning and Tmog about 50% of the benefit.
I was also open to the idea that any that roll Tmog gets the look win or lose (keep in mind, with this, the item still has to drop in the first place).
why, are words hard? why cant you keep track of your own claims?
they are not my team, and I cannot solo LFG but neither can they. I merely said that I should have a chance to be rewarded for my time investment, just as much as they . You are purposely changing my words to make it sound like I donât want anyone else to get loot other than me. Thatâs the definition of trolling.
BTW you are also saying that ilvl is the only thing that matters when thatâs your personal opinion, sorry but this game has many cool things to do other than just climb ilvl . my ilvl is very high, and yet i find pleasure in other aspects of the game, Iâm sorry you donât.
Mount collections , transmogs and transmog competitions, i literally won blizzard balance because I won a transmog competition, it was great fun. You are far less connected to this community than me, i promise.
i am happy to help others it doesnât mean i have to forfeit loot i need
which was?
sorry just wanted you to feel what itâs like to read something like this.
you are trolling me, i am answering everyoneâs questions earnestly, you purposely take 3 words of my complete sentences and thoughts and then say nothing.
wow more than 1 person can be on the internet at a time what a novel concept.
hello kentaurus my alt i just met today
circular logic? please what is an example of circular logic here , and this time in complete quotes please.
Wait, Iâm another playerâs alt?
I may need some time to process this.
good night, sorry if some guy accuses you of being my alt now because you agreed with me
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I am very envious of your post count tbh, I look like I never come here. very suspicious I know.
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