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I donāt expect YOU to do anything. You have shown everyone whatās importantā¦I, I, I, I and me. You donāt do charity work in the game, thatās what you should do in real life, maybe you do and maybe you donāt. Probably not because how you behave in the game is a reflection of who you are in real life but who knows, i certainly donāt. I will just say the same things i said to the other dude who ran away.
Whatās better for the game itself, you getting a color for your toon or someone else getting an upgrade? Donāt bother answering, i know what it will be. I hope all that charity you might do in real life is going well and helps others so when you are āwasting timeā in the game you are able to balance it out.
you sound deranged. You are putting far more value to these pixels than I ever could. Y
You are treating this like itās world hunger we are dealing with. Whatās better for the game is that everyone accepts the dice roll is what makes the decision, not your weird perception of reality.
Can i just bring my newly boosted alt along with you so you can pass on everything for me since thatās your selfless philosophy though? you would be improving the game after all
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Is it so terribly urgent that someone get that alternate colour of a piece of gear that they probably hardly ever wear and will just vendor once earned? Why not wait until you can go in solo and get what you want? Most people go back to the old raids now and then for some nice mog items; why is it so terribly important to do it now?
I admit, I donāt get the need.
I think what Blizzard needs to do is make the alternate colors/styles available like a drake manuscript towards the end of the game. Then people such as you donāt have to worry about wasting your time on running LFR for mog only slightly different from what youād earn in Heroic or Mythic.
Also, as a side note, isnāt it possible to get certain pieces of set gear out in the world and use the catalyst to get a lower tier appearance? I cant recall the difference in look so Iām not sure.
Until Blizzard does that, I suspect this subject of disagreement will continue. I guess Iāve used up more precious moments of my life than I need to on the matter, I shall venture off for a cup of tea. Enjoy your raiding. 
LOL, yes very deranged. You found me out. Help others get upgraded gear to help their toons get more powerful over you getting a color. You donāt do charity work in the gameā¦iām deranged. Well like i said alreadyā¦
If you say so but i donāt do LFR or any other raiding because i saw many MANY years ago how garbage human beings treated others over pixels in a game. You want a color so you donāt āwaste timeā over ācharityā for others so they can have an upgrade, but i am putting more value on pixels than you ever could. LOL, ok.
Remember this as the game dies and struggles to add new players. Oh wait thatās been happening for YEARS already.
You know itās kind of funny you bring this up, clearly you are not an officer of any guild who does anything. But i was an officer in the top guild on my server in Vanilla and we did this ALL THE TIME. You take folks who have potential and run them through 5 mans to see if they mesh with a TEAM (i know you donāt really know what that is but you can look it up in a dictionary) and THEN when they join the guild you take them to previous tier raids so you can focus ALL THE LOOT TO THEM SO THEY CAN JOIN CURRENT TIER RAIDS. But clearly you donāt know what feeding loot to folks means because you canāt get past the word I, I, I, I and charity because you donāt care about color pixels in a game your not āwastingā time in, amiright?
LOL. Good luck with all that, your going places, FAST.
The answer to this question lies in the context, remember it is a game, so the answer is no, but then it is also not terribly urgent for you to upgrade your ilvl today because you might get another piece tomorrow.
How important it is is up to the individual to decide, certainly not for others to decide for you.
ok, you have other goals thatās fine.
thereās many solutions, but that kind of stuff only ends with less participation in LFR, and then those who do participate do so from characters that can only improve their ilvl, therefore the average skill/power of the raid will go down and youāll still be stuck rolling against the exact same number of people you were before.
Only difference is before you had those powerful players passing on items that they no longer need (have the mog) or items that are mogless (trinkets rings etc) so even less loot chances since everyone will be on an even field.
If you prefer that its fine, but just donāt act like me being there is āruiningā your chances, in place of me youāll just have someone worse.
Yes it is possible, but thatās only for certain pieces, and you also have to burn charges, I think blizz should allow you to use āfree chargesā if you already have higher ilvl versions, but thatās a different type of thread/topic.
I hope you have a good day 
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This is so overly dramatic I donāt know what to say, you are far too emotional to approach this subject
lol, yea, ppl being saying that for like 20 years ok. When the game dies it dies, my life will go on regardless. If itās so pointless why do you care so much?
officer of a guild? is that supposed to mean something? I have many server first titles to my name, is that supposed to mean something? IDK
I am not to even disagreeing with any of this, this is what everyone here should do if they want to create a team of ppl who do loot based on the teamās need.
But this thread is about LFG, people I will never see again, they are not part of my team.
My team is people I play with on the regular, and I am always happy to help MY TEAM.
Itās hilarious you are coming at this with the perfect way for all these threads to be over, donāt like RNG loot rules? GET A GUILD!
Very dramatic.
Very emotional.
I wouldnāt expect anything more from you.
I think itās important to call out folks who donāt do ācharityā in the game.
Iām sure you are the bestest of the bestest ever to play the game, not that i expected any other answer from the I, I, I, I person.
Thank you for pointing out the EXACT PROBLEM. You think itās ok to crap on others becauseā¦
Well guess what, when you are in LFG, guess who your team is? Come on, you can figure it out. I mean iām sure from your I, I, I, I perspective you are clearing LFG solo right? Amiright?
Thank you once again for proving my point. In detail this time.
how am I crapping on others? am I hacking their dice or something?
thatās what I wanna ask some of these ppl, I was there! why cant I also get a chance to roll?
so in order for it to be morally correct for me to roll on items all I have to do is bring my rat alt? is that cool then?
just gonna hold this mirror, I wasnāt the one trying belittle you based on game experience, you were.
For a pug, if I run certain content then I expect a chance at the rewards for that content. Iām not there donating my free time for someone else to receive a reward. If that need dice shows up Iām hitting it. No amount of anger from another person is going to change that.
For my personal friends itās a different story. I would go out of my way to help them. For strangers with throw away alts, not a chance.
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I am happy to pass on anything that I already have the mog of, but they really out here just tempting me to bring my most rattiest alt to roll on everything all over again
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I donāt expect you to understand when itās already been explained. I get it, you donāt do ācharityā and āwasteā your time in a game, you donāt ācare aboutā pixels that muchā¦although you seem to prove otherwise.
So you already get it, there is nothing more to say. Grats.
Honestly i have no idea what a rat alt is so i canāt say anything about this.
You hold that mirrorā¦
Still waiting for that answer.
What a dumb hill to die on.
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Why would i die?
Is someone going to kill me?
no I am debating your claim, I am asking you if all I have to do is bring my 0 gear alt to roll need on the item, and thats all it takes for you to see it as acceptable? Try to answer one thing at least instead of just snippets of some of my words
newly leveled alts with no gear, by your logic they are the most entitled to gear.
I am, waiting for you to respond
no, but neither are they, I was there too.
I already said this why do I have to repeat myself? are you reading at all?
All this back and forth hand wringing when all blizz needs to do is make it so that higher tier versions of an item automatically unlock all the mogs of all its lower tier versions plus make the mog roll an independent item roll from the actual gear and hey presto, no more arguing or complaints. Really this is entirely Blizzās fault at this point.
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Itās easy, I want the transmog
this solves an issue but creates a new one, which is hurting LFR participation, meaning longer queues and worse characters overall.
it also 100% would cut into blizz metrics, they like having heroic players also go to lfr.
Realistically the runs go smoother when powerful characters show up, but there has to be a reason for them to go.
Oh golly, this is just inventing wild and creative scenarios, lol. We could āwhat ifā all night! Iāve only ever said ācontributed to the killā - Iāve never suggested or implied there should be any kind of āweightā associated with rolls based on contribution. That would actually hurt your argument a lot, tbh. But genuinely I think that weighting rolls based on contribution is a bad idea. People use LFR to learn, and there are going to be a lot of mistakes made, and thatās okay. In the end if youāre successful, everyone who contributed gets a chance at loot. And actually, let me quote you here on that because I agree:
Exactly! Thatās what Iāve been saying! We all contributed to the kill so now we all get a chance at the loot if we can roll. And if we can roll is determined by Blizzardās rules programmed into the game. Then RNG takes it from there, yes!
The problem is when you add another layer to the if you can roll part and you try to add more conditionals based on whether you perceive someone needs it or not, or how worthy you think their use of the loot is. The problem is having the mindset that your roll is somehow worth more than another person who contributed to the kill just like you, AND was also given the chance to roll on the loot by Blizzard.
I donāt feel like I have been disrespectful to you. If I have been, I apologize. I truly believe that everyone who contributes to the kill should have an equal chance at the loot if they are eligible to roll. Period. Let RNG take it from there, right? How someone plans to use the loot if they win it is irrelevant to how that eligibility is determined by Blizzard.
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Which is?
You already know the answer to this. You can roll on anything whether itās a new alt or not, the real question is SHOULD YOU, hence your questionā¦
Just like you already know the answer to thisā¦
Because you have already stated
So you have already answered all your questions, this IS your point of view. Whether you feel like garbage about it or not, thatās on you but it is very telling of the type of person you areā¦at least in game.
What would you like me to respond with? You already told meā¦
So now we know what your game experience is and what mine is. I used my experience to explain team and you somehow you got ābelittledā or i ātriedā to ābelittleā you. What really happened is that I said the EXACT SAME THING YOU ALREADY STATEDā¦
Because you donāt know what TEAM is. Because as you stated
And THAT is the WHOLE point
No you didnāt, at least not to me in any of your replies. But at least now you have.