Honestly the new roll system is just not very good, takes way to much time–what they should do is revert it but leave the option for people to do loot that way if they want to (like in premade groups)
P.S. Before you would beat boss and know instantly if you won something, when you won something it was awesome.
Now you have to wait and roll and some people take forever to roll–and when you do win something its like “well finally I won something geez” its not even like a “yay i won something”
By my calculations if 9 people roll against you every time a 5% chance item shows up, you still have a 39.4% chance of getting it within 20 weeks. 63.3% if only 4 people roll against you every time.
No it doesnt.
PL is never coming back because of easy it was to exploit it.
How so?
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I agree. They should definitely fix it to where obtaining an item on a higher difficulty automatically unlocks all lower tiers of difficulty looks for that item.
That’ll even have the bonus effect that the geared mains will get out of LFR so it can be “pure” and only run with their own kind/peers.
I keep seeing you say this, and yet… no one has any proof or screenshots of this occurring, nor is anyone sharing that they are reporting it with specifics. You’d think if that were happening, there’d be screenshots of the outrage to show this bug and Blizzard would’ve made a statement by now. I’m not saying that this game doesn’t have bugs (of course it does, and this is possible), but I have yet to actually see this happen, nor see anyone show proof when they claim this stuff happens.
Here’s what Blizzard has to say about those claims: (link to the blue post source is above since they don’t want me sharing the link multiple times in the same thread.)
You can never Need for anything your class cannot wear.Players won’t be able to win multiples of the same item - say that 2 sets of Shoulders drop. While you can roll Need on both of them, winning one will ‘remove’ your roll from the other.My guess when people say it’s bugged because they saw someone roll on and win something “they already had” is that they misunderstand Blizzard’s stated eligibility rules: Additionally, players can’t Need on a piece of loot if they’re wearing the exact piece at the exact item level, though in the event where this occurs but the dropped piece has a Tertiary stat or Socket, that roll would be possible (as those are upgrades).
The last time someone claimed it was bugged, they didn’t even know that people could change their loot spec or specify which loot spec they wanted.
People are just mad they lost an RNG roll, or that someone with a piece at a higher ilevel is able to roll on the same piece at a lower ilevel in LFR because they don’t like the eligible person’s reason (transmog) for needing it.
Thats a potential backfire for the players who only do lfr, but i guess they can keep lowering the difficulty until they can clear it when heroic+ players are around.
Incorrect, the game doesnt let you do that. 1 person cannot win 2 of the same piece from 1 loot window.
That’s a decent idea. I doubt Blizzard would do it, but if enough people complaint about it they probably would. They have proven they can and will change things (when people complain enough, lol)–It’s in their incentive to keep it the way it is though…it prolongs content by making people farm out the different sets
I suspect what he is referring to is the fact that you could stack armour classes and thus force PL to drop more of said armour class gear since unlike GL (which ignores what armour classes are in the group), PL actually took that into account and wouldn’t e.g. drop mail gear for a group that had no mail wearers.
That #2 makes me feel a little better. I won the 1-handed axe from Fyrakk on my Warrior this week. 2 dropped, and I rolled on both because that’s…basically what you do. I saw I was the highest roll on both and my heart dropped a little. I only wanted one of them. I was glad to not see any mail after an hour or so. I just figured that someone outrolled me somehow. Apparently that was by design, and that makes me feel wayyyy less guilty.
I already stated some:
Others have mentioned ideas like having the higher level/tack unlock the lower ones, which would also be an option.
I am all for those that consider tmog a need (I don’t) to get what they “need”, I just don’t want to see it at the cost of people that need them as upgrades losing out to those that are rolling need for tmog.
Hey, if WQs provide LFR or better gear anyway, LFR may be tthe only “group” content they do, but no need to reduce difficulty below what world players can manage.
Yes, blizz doesnt do everything perfect but theres more safeguards in place than ppl think
transmog, enchanting matts…etc…
Mog can be farmed forever, the gear being usable is only temporary
See how that works?
You are changing the subject . You were asking why their needs arent morr.importsnt than mine. Under the current system the only fair thing is to allow people to roll on what they want regardless of it being power or mog.
Not gonna wait years to farm current mogs unless i can also just not pay blizz for said years. And also theres many pieces i want now not later
Yeah I get what you mean! Earlier today I did LFR on my alt and 2 of the same staff dropped and I needed on both for obvious better chances - thankfully it wouldn’t give me both if I had the highest roll for both of them. If for some weird reason it did, I would’ve given one to the next highest roll.
You did remind me that Blizzard addressed dual-wield specs, though. (Not sure if your warrior is dual-wield or not)
dual wielding classes are exempt from this as far as weapons are concerned (assuming the weapon itself is not unique-equipped).
So as long as it isn’t a unique-equipped 1H weap, if you are a dual-wield spec you can roll on 2 of them at once and potentially win both fairly, though unlikely to happen.
Yeah, he’s Fury spec. So, I could have potentially won both. Someone must have outrolled me after I snagged the first and bailed. If that’s the case, good for them. I’m glad they got one, too.
You asked me what the alternative was, maybe the best alternative is to remove the issue in the first place, I.E. there does not have to be talk about “whose needs are more important” if the needs of each are handled separately. Or to put it another way, if the only fair solution in the current system is what you do, change the system.
One Idea I just came up with is LFR is only for mog and upgrades in slots that are not moged (rings, necks, trinks) due to how world content drops equal or better gear anyway.