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then will you admit on the forums you had no power at all when the boosts happen, as they are going to?
Poor OP Mini. Sorry dude. <3
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Truly? If so then I apologize
PMS jokes arenāt funny. Period.
nerf men obv. no period waaaaaaaaaaay too op. 
Maybe so, but at least Iām having fun!
ā¦God, Monster Hunter cannot get here fast enoughā¦
this thread reminds me of the fact postā¦ somethingā¦ you couldnāt wear a trench coat to school without getting suspended. you know. you know.
No, you claimed you had power over life and death like a crazy person.
You have agency but your power amounts to nothing. You are a single sub, that doesnāt budge any needles. Youāre a protest vote at best.
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Itās revealing that people can simultaneously exhibit hopelessness and impotence with such a strong degree of certainty.
None of us know the future, none of us.
Iād wager that many people who think it isnāt possible to reverse Blizzardās direction would never have thought classic was possible.
However itās a red herring, just because the odds of advocating against laziness and exploitative capitalism are low in terms of success doesnāt mean that you shouldnāt fight it all the same.
My country is doing many things I do not agree with, and I have even more limited influence over my government than I do Blizzard but that doesnāt mean I just give in and shut up like a good little sheep.
In other words, āthe dems stole the election!ā
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Still not backing up your words, still trying to engage in character assassination instead of discussing the merits of your opinion versus that of your opposition.
And also incorrect iāve been a Democrat since the 20th century, any other idiotic comments youād like to have ripped to pieces?
I dont imagine this is the point where you grow a pair and educate me on my incorrect word usage?
I mean, I want to like your spirit.
I do agree, you should absolutely speak up for what you believe in, and Iām happy to see you do that.
But power? Iāve seen how many people you need, what kind of stink you need to raise to get blizz to change their minds on something.
You donāt have the votes. This is a forum, discussing is the purpose, and if you strongly believe, please discuss.
But Iām gonna laugh at you when you keep saying you have power when you clearly do not.
None of us know the future. But I do know for them to turn their back on a feature they announced at blizzcon, that they put front and center in the first bit of marketing for TBC, you need about 10 times the amount of people complaining that currently are, and a lot less people saying they want it. A LOT less.
Keep speaking out. But if you want power, you need a lot more folks.
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Buddy, if you actually believe I hadnāt stopped taking you seriously ages ago then Iāve got this beautiful summer home on the beach of Lake Gullible to sell you
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Itās just so hard to get through all the barriers and actually get someone to admit that boosts are probably not good for the game because of the paradigm shift they will cause.
Getting people to step away from their own self-interest and just discuss a topic abstractly and honestly is a monumental challenge in 2021.
I do believe itās possible, and I believe that if you took many of these peoplle iāve been arguing with and sat in a room with them and engaged in small talk, looked them in the eye and spoke honestly and asked the same of themā¦entirely different conversation.
and maybe they would change their mind and maybe not, but atleast it wouldnāt beā¦this.
My power in this context isnāt non-existent itās just very very limited. But iām not just a man iām a man with an idea and if enough people share that ideaā¦it can become very powerful indeed.
I just donāt know how to get there with people who, quite logically, donāt want to waste time leveling a character but refuse to see the consequences of the convenience.
Itās actually not hard at all to have genuine discussion with people in this day and age
You just have to be willing to accept the oppositionās arguments, even if you donāt agree with them, and actually rebut them in a civil manner
Which you have failed to do ever since you started this whole crusade of yours yesterday. Any opposition to anything you said was met with vague, flowery insults and massive paragraphs that amount to āno youāre wrong shut upā
Youāve turned away anyone actually willing to have a two-way dialogue and all thatās left is people either laughing at you, or pitying you. Or both
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Itās actually super easy, barely an inconvenience to have a genuine discussion with somebody when you are omitting logical fallacies of assuming the conclusion.
This argument only works if we assume that the paradigm shift caused by boosting is actually probably not good for the game is a true stance.
There is however no objective evidence to support that claim.
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I mean, we disagree about the consequences, but we had that discussion already.
Right now if I had to give advice, itās that you need a better argument than youāre currently presenting. Youāve got a whole lot of strong feelings, but not a lot of strong data.
The game didnāt end after they added paid stuff, if anything it made more money. And a lot of the problems with retail donāt have anything to do with paid services- itās much more a problem of removing reasons to build communities by making things too convenient, content that is designed to be impossible to do efficiently, to improve MAU metrics, that sort of thing. Of course thatās my opinion, but you can see why the āpaid services= ruined the gameā argument doesnāt hold a lot of water.
Like I can point to revamping the old world as when levelling stopped being engaging (still fun, but no need to ever think). I can point to artifact grinds in legion as to when they stopped respecting the playerās time. But I have a hard time pointing to when they added a boost that ruined the game becauseā¦ I donāt think it did. Other things did that.
If you want to convince people, thatās the thing you need to be able to argue. That retail is ruined because of that, instead of the other terrible choices they made.
History dudeā¦are you being āgenuineā with me right now?
Once activistion took over this company their goals have changed and itās been readily apparent. In the same time period they brought in a host of paid services and went on a nerfing spree to make the game easier to play and easier to cope with failure in it, the company lost massive numbers of players and gained new ones.
Thatās the evidence. Furthermore on a personal note I would add that itās my judgment these newer players have been equally as bad for the game as Activision but donāt respond to that part while omitting the primary thrust here please.
Iām mostly busting chops right now.
As you pointed out earlier, nobody knows the future. Retail being the way it is is not evidence that it will happen to TBC Classic.
Consider that Classic itself also had non-Classic features like layering at launch, and it did not magically turn into Shadowlands.
Also consider that weāre talking about boosting right now, and Blizzard paid boosting is not the only form of it.
Personal judgement is subjective. I said objective. As in, you have to be able actually prove it is fact, not just that you strongly believe it.
and frankly, good luck with that.
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