If you’re getting sick and tired over checks notes race and class combinations in a video game.
You don’t have enough going on in your life and you need to grow up.
This has been said for years, but paladins shaman and druids would take about as many resources as an expansion to make for all races.
Everyone screamed “Give us Gnome hunters!”
I remember this fondly as I thought it was a huge victory for people who love gnomes. I saw tons of them made the day they released it to the public.
Then, they vanished never to be seen again. I have never seen a gnome hunter in the wild at max level, I’m sure they are out there some where, but was it worth the man hours vs the 5 people who play them? Who knows.
I like to think this left a sour taste in someones mouth and now they’re upset.
I agree with op, except, why do evoker/dh make sense to stay restricted? All of their rationale has been “rp reasons”, and that’s the exact reason these are also restricted.
There’s no way they could ever figure out an rp reason for these? Or better yet, since they’d be moving away from that reasoning for all the other combinations, it makes zero sense to hold on to it for any reason whatsoever.
tldr: open up dh/evoker as well, there’s a big reason why evoker especially isn’t played as much.
- Get third dwarf race
- Still no playable Naga
- Panda I become. :{
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They didn’t shoot down anything, they literally mentioned that it’d be a lot of work, and right now their focus is on the decoupling of Dracthyr and Evoker, which is going to be a legitimate nightmare because of how the race and class were originally developed and sold.
Just because it’s not happening right now doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
For me, it’s not the delay itself that irritates me… it’s the vague and dismissive tone of the - “Nothing to share right now” - comment that gets me. Like, if they had just said - “Hey, it’s taking longer than expected because we pivoted to opening Dracthyr to more classes. Don’t worry, we’re still working on it. It’s just taking a bit more time” - then I don’t think there would be as much frustration about it.
I’m disappointed to have to wait longer to roll a Forsaken Paladin, sure, but them being a bit less dismissive about it would’ve made it a little less disappointing.
They changed their minds to save money. Period.
It always sucks to get told ‘not right now’, but that’s the reality of dev management, they have to pick-and-choose what to focus on and they’re (rightfully) focusing on the disaster that is Dracthyr class restrictions and racial addressing.
You are assuming a lot.
Listen, I might perhaps just be an adult, but I am also a product of the MTV generation and I want it NOW!
/s … Sort of with a heavy dose of realism.
They keep wanting to do it and then remembering it would take some effort.
I don’t think unfair is the right word here. It can be disappointing, sure. But it’s not unfair. A change in direction and backing out of something they did not actually begin to deliver on isn’t unfair. It’s just them deciding not to do it. People who take it too personally and think of it as unfair is on them for the most part.
It would be different if they began rolling out datamined information about night elf paladins and things like that where people had reasonable expectations of them coming in sooner rather than later, but none of that happened either. There was no Elunite Nightsaber datamined, or something like night elf paladin quest text (other than Delas Moonfang continuing to be a gigantic travesty of writing in Legion).
To be clear, I get being bummed about it. I’m not telling you to stop being bummed. I just feel like coining this as “unfair” also hurts your own point considering it comes off emotionally charged. Can it be disappointing? Sure. Can it suck? Sure. But it’s not unfair.
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Reading through this thread, i find i agree with a lot of people. Well except the OP doing a mini rant on unsubscribing. I’m so tired of reading that one. You made your point with out the extra burst at the end.
I understand the frustration, but i have seen a lot of the arguments fall under the catagory of i wanna have my cake and cookies too. I’ve been waiting for years to play shaman on other races, i mean come on, gnomes should be able to be anything by now.
But it does come down to work load. I could see the last string of classes left to open really coming down to work load. I’ve already read way to many articles about blizzard teams being way to over worked to meet the basic demands of seasons and expansion drops. On top of bug fixes, balancing issues, and all the other never ending things that have to get done.
From what i understand they have been working on getting the classes opened up, but they are only able to do one piece here and one piece there. With all the massive changes to the game over the last few years i’m not surprised it’s taken this long.
I think it’s just down to choice of 1) do they delay an expansion and lose a couple seasons. I can here all the hardcore pvp players crying and screaming over that one already. Or 2) keep plugging along on the random minutes or couple hours they can scrape to hopefully have it done in a couple years to drop with an expansion or halfway through.
Me personally, as much as it sucks to wait, i’ll just ride and see what happens. I mean they have managed to run for 20 years this November and the subscription price is still exactly the same as when vanilla first dropped. I’ll take the subscription price still being 30 bucks every 2 months over complaining that the game isn’t exactly perfect any day. Well except shadowpriest getting screwed over constantly, i’m always willing to complain about that one. 
I’m ok with it
I knew this was the case for Worgen monks, when they first started saying, “But the animations!” Because if you used the Orb of Deception as a Horde Pandaren, you would turn into a random Alliance race and sometimes you’d get Worgen. If you were a monk you’d be a Worgen monk and had all the right animations.
This is really what they should do. Dwarf paladins used the human horse for years and it was fine. All the vanilla Horde shamans shared the same Tauren totems until WOTLK(?) and it was fine too. Druid forms could use generic bear/cat/bird models in the interim.
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t not think of this… 
https://y.yarn.co/8217d9b6-f83b-4b05-873d-7abbab8546be_text.gif
On Topic: As someone who is able to play a combo I long thought “Never going to happen”, I can’t really speak against any other combos lol. Would be nice if it were to happen sooner than later.
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No one WANTS it half-baked. But it’s a compromise to get the race class combos sooner. Bunch of folks in this thread seem to agree
It’s not that I don’t want them fully baked with bespoke forms. It’s that I don’t want the specific art assets for druids, shaman and paladins to be the bottleneck for those race class combos being available.
As others have pointed out in the thread, a bunch of races used generic forms that were applicable to multiple races for many years.
And as a druid, I’m usually using race-agnostic forms I’ve earned anyway because they’re more prestigious and prettier.
Exactly. Iteration is ok.
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I mean, there’s no reason to complain that your cat is generic if you can go and get the Legion cat. That feathery one is sick and it comes in four colours. I use the purple one.
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lol.
When I was in my 20s, I used to be a DM for the D&D club we had on base but still to this day (40 years later) never heard that term.
Dungeon Delves means nothing to me. Delver of the Vaults is a title one gets for one boss completed on Heroic difficulty. although the title implies multiple vaults, which would imply more than one Boss.
I see what you are saying though but to implement “Delves” into the new expansion, when it was taken from one raid boss kill on heroic difficulty back 14 years ago in Pandaria expansion seem very odd.