Note the whole class - not just a spec … Warriors have become the benchmark for acceptably bad now eh lol. You seriously argued that your spec needed a large buff because they were not beating the whole Warrior class in dps … C’mon and you call me a troll?
I was actually in favour of giving Ferals a small buff btw. But the anti Warrior bias in the community is actually hilarious. I mean, it’s actually explicit now - “Warriors aren’t bottom buff meh spec!”. As if the very occurrence of a Warrior beating one of your specs is grounds for a buff …
No, 95th percentile and heck, even 90th percentile Ferals were solid in the middle of the pack, upper middle on some fights. Not counting gimmicks such as Hodir or Kologarn of course.
Actually it was, it was only where it was in terms of DPS because of those unintended mechanics, which were incredibly janky to pull off in the first place. The change to FFF was to compensate for removing those, that it is a nice DPS boost is an added bonus
Again, no.
Ignis then: Feral in top 5. Now: competing for #1.
Razor then: Feral right around Survival Hunters Now: Right below Warlocks
XT then: Feral around Frost DK which is #7. Now: top 3.
Iron Council then: Roughly on par with Combat and Shadow Priests. Now: Top 3.
And so on. This is 90th percentile, it gets even spicier if you up it to 95 as then you can see that Feral was already outperforming Combat Rogues and both Shaman specs.
No. The change was exclusively to get rid of the unintended mechanics, the throughput buff is a clearly unintended side effect of that, especially given that it is more than was predicted by the Blizzard intern and going to only get larger and larger as time passes.
Funny how you’re focused on the top 5% of players, where you should be looking at average player. Those top 5% ferals are getting parse fed. It literally means nothing. Meanwhile a lot of boss fights are nothing but warlocks/rogues/dk’s for pages and pages in WCL.
You don’t like our buff? Fine. Revert it, but also nerf locks/dk’s/rogues so they literally aren’t taking the top 500 spots on almost all boss kills.
Umm… no they clearly explained the buff was intended to A) compensate for removing flower weaving and B) to make bear weaving a DPS loss compared to what we have now.
Do you know why I and pretty much everyone else should focus on the top 5-10% of players?
Because anything below 70th percentile includes half naked GDKP buyers and alt carries, which do not represent class/spec performance at all.
Umm… no they clearly explained the buff was intended to A) compensate for removing flower weaving and B) to make bear weaving a DPS loss compared to what we have now.
It removes flowerweaving. Bear weaving is still a tiny DPS gain. It also buffed an already decent spec into top 3 for absolutely no reason at all which is the main issue.
It’s not that complex anymore is the thing lol. Particularly compared to the rotations of several other classes, most of whom bring less utility than a feral druid.
I don’t know if they can walk it back now, but it was probably too much.
It’s less complex, well really i’d say less janky, than flow/bear weaving but it’s still a lot more than almost all other classes including some that are still beating feral. So yeah it’s fine.
Except they don’t for other classes. Trying to adjust specs to match 2009 numbers is a very very flawed approach. Sooo much is not like 2009.
I really don’t see why Blizzard should buff you to meet your expectations but not buff other specs and classes to meet there’s. They shouldn’t be buffing any class or spec to match outdated gameplay expectations.
I find it incredibly ironic that you use 2009 performance as justification for your buff but reject that case when made for Fury… neither case is valid in my view.
It was strongly in the middle of the pack, upper middle for some fights just like many other specs.
And again, no. With how Blizzard operates all the fotm Feral rerollers will most likely face a huge disappointment anywhere between a month to 2 from now, at best in mid-TotC.
Ferals needed help no question, for the same reason Rets did and I’ve said as much. They made changes that negatively impacted the class, so its reasonable to expect they make other changes to offset that.
You’re going to see more raid logs with ferals represented. But with the hardest content until ICC, if not the entire expansion already behind us it’s not like there’s a lot of pressure to swap just for the sake of clears… so I doubt you’d see a huge shift in numbers for any class at this point no matter what they did.
After 2 days (so it’s not even close to optimized yet) they’re basically the second best melee class in the game on any Ulduar fight, while bringing a ton of utility. And its definitely less complex than Enh or even UH.
