I’m quitting classic again. Even tho nobody cares

people really enjoy getting on their high horse before they leave.

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Full Loot PvP always comes down to players who levelled first camping new people. Redridge would be a gold farm.

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Without the ability to bank your gold, I’d limit looting to items only and not be auto-lootable. Each item you loot off your kill should take a few seconds. It won’t be a huge difference from current PvP. Players will just wear cheap armor/weapons when leveling. There doesn’t need to be a huge dev investment to make this work.

I encourage all who are tired of the current meta gaming, gdkp only scene, to explore other options. They may not be perfect but we are out there building something special right now.

We’re creating a thriving community that enjoys the game and culture as it used to be. Come check us out discord(dot)gg/6HbG9Fm3d2

If the game you genuinely enjoyed was getting ruined by a combination of RMT’ers and bots running rampant and an entirely apathetic game company, you’ be pretty sad, too.

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The only real way to stop/slow RMT down and maybe GKDP… RELEASE PERSONAL LOOT! lol

Maybe. But if you hang out with cheaters you’re just as guilty as actually doing it. Maybe not literally but conceptually.

What high horse am I on? Because I choose not to swipe I’m all of a sudden on a high horse? Cute post.

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There is no solution here other than Blizzard hiring GM’s and actively banning both RMTers and botters, regardless of if sub numbers drop.

The game will die if else.

Banwaves are entirely ineffective and only act as arbitrary “Look at us guys, we banned a million gorillion bajillion accounts!” while there is quite literally a conga line of fly hacking bots walking into the plaguelands, Diremaul, and Maraudon.

Its absolutely COMICAL, how bad they are at dealing with RMT/Botting to the point if someone working at Blizzard told me “yeah we outright don’t do anything and GM’s no longer exist” I would actually believe them.

Bobby getting a nice 400M buyout from M$ only furthers my opinion that management at Act/Blizz cut out as much Customer Support roles as possible to squeeze every dime to make the buyout look ever that much better on paper, at the entire cost of long term viability of all products.

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I do find it interesting how drastically different my experience has been to yours. I’ve been playing with the same guild since Moltern Core, raiding every week. I’m sitting on like 30k gold from barely playing the game. I raid log so maybe 8 hours a week and a bit more for events(i got violet Proto) and new patches(dailies for frost badges/skulls atm) I don’t need to spend a lot of gold on anything. Gems I get with badges, Chants the guild provides from all the stuff we DE in raid, so what’s left to spend money on? I could buy 264 boots to replace my 258 boots, for 15k but what for? Just wait a few weeks and get boots in raid.

I think we’re talking about era, not wrath no?

I will say that in classic, finding a guild that isn’t GDKP-driven is pretty rare, most people buy gold and do one of the 3984394 GDKPs that are advertised daily, which is sometimes kind of unfortunate. I was lucky enough to find a guild that doesn’t do GDKP for the “true classic experience”, but I haven’t seen many that do Naxx or are actively recruiting (or maybe I didn’t try hard enough). Then there’s the prices of consumes, everything is mega inflated, and uber farmed, which could be also be attributable to the servers merge/no layers thing, in addition to bots and gold buying.

Sadly, as much as bots are a problem, I think the player base is just as much at fault. It’s maybe just the fact that its era, all the content we’ve seen before, people just want to pay to get their character “full bis” and call it a day. I know it’s corny but it seems like it’s not about the journey as much as it is to do what they didn’t get to do in classic, same with ranking, with PVE gearing etc.

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I completely understand. I detest the GDKP and the WB meta to the core. Sadly, this is the players’ fault. Players today want everything quickly and easy to get, which is contrary to the base design of the Classic Era game (grinding, random loot drops, etc). This rings true to WB meta as well. Why actually spend time mastering your craft and strategy as a raid when you can simply zug zug and faceroll everything when everyone is jacked up on WBs? “Regular” guilds are doing sub 1.5 hours Naxx now.

The best you can do is join a small server community, outside of the mega servers. These still preserve the basic design of the game because, well, there isn’t much option either.

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Games don’t have spirits.

They aren’t alive.

RMT has made it super easy to make gold, the people who are buying gold are spending loads on mats which are overpriced. Go farm some mats or run people through dungeons and you can make tons.

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Seriously. Mara 5 runs are 200g now. I saw people charging 70g per 5 rfc runs.

Step 1 would be giving us our 2nd layer back. This would really help stabilize pricing or raiding materials supply for those folks that still play the game and dont buy gold, and or dont already have years of supply already in the can from being long term on Era or Clones.

Since the launch of HC Classic we have had 1 layer only, as server resources moved to Classic HC. The population on the era NA east cluster is insane right now, and way higher than would have triggered a second layer prior to this. Apparently it is now something like 7k players needed online for another layer. Commodity prices have pretty much quadrupled in the weeks since HC launch, and we are picking up more and more Classic players as they transfer over after HC death.

ROFL your takes are so bad, I suggest you move on from “trolling”, you’re losing it.

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And yet, here you are, feeding me.

Dude in my guild spent 35k on Twilight Texts last night…

It’s absurd.

then you must really hate the xp and dungeons, etc./ runners/carriers…
i know i do…when i see those ads come up in trade…i just log off…
bad enough that nonsense is so prevalent in retail.