Hunters were behind Warriors, Rogues, and Mages in DPS. Why nerf?

It was a joke sis… I was being sarcastic, I know, weird right. Do calm down though, take a break find somewhere else to be you’re not discussing in good faith here so I suggest you step away!

I like the way instead of being like ‘who the hell is that’ you immediately get defensive. LOL

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I honestly see it as those 2 brackets, regardless of what anyone says.

Good Hunters:
Just want Lone Wolf to not be absolute trash embarrassment of math.

Bad Hunters:
Me want send pet and win.

:man_shrugging:

Pets are never going to be involved in classic. They didnt get good until we had things like intervene on tank pets in WotLK to eat rogue openers and such. Classic its always going to be /petattack, WOW, SO GAMEPLAY, AMAZE.

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I agree with this first part but the second part…

Ehhh, I disagree, but it is a good vs bad hunter thing. In pvp for sure, pets are always always great. Harassing, spell pushback, stun with charge pet, poison dot which is solid, they’re a good nuisance. PVE wise though? I agree sorta, they do have utility so the scaling will change that imho. Hoping this ends up doing well for 40 bracket, 50 bracket, and end game 60’s but who knows. Quality of life things from BC and Wrath are welcome for sure (Like scaling)

He gave no evidence of when he got crit for that 450. And based on all the recent changes it was not after those nerfs had gone through. It is mathmattically impossible unless he was running around with rez sickness or some other debuff. Even bis hunters LB is not hitting for 225 non crit at this point.

I would love for lone wolf to be viable.

If it was even within 5-10% of the bis build i would use it.

I’m sorry I can’t do this anymore, people with the refute arguments like you keep saying the same thing. “No evidence” Yet you didn’t provide any yourself. You are also being disingenuous and refusing to believe someone but we have to take YOU face value fully. Please, consider what you say instead of digging into someone and fussing “WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!” I’m outsies.

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Wow it did more damage on a boss that takes increased spell damage

You’re brilliant.

No it isn’t.

It got a 15% buff.

And you’re example is off a boss that takes increased spell damage.

Looking up top logs is so hard :roll_eyes:

For the top english log for easy reading that used windserpent LB in the last day (so after the nerf)

https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7Fh2Mp8xCQ4tJaYb#boss=-2&wipes=2&start=778374&end=2394096&type=damage-done&source=85&ability=25009&view=events

This is the actual top log wind serpent LB but not in English

https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/faGtCmDNPABjWdYy#boss=-2&wipes=2&start=1090344&end=3180371&type=damage-done&source=3&ability=25009&view=events

Note its highest crit (not on boss that takes bonus magic damage) appears to be 375. (The turtle boss had a 632 but that hardly counts as it takes bonus damage)

So. You have the data i have been looking at now.

Still want to claim lb is doing 450 crits on players without some form of shenanigans happening?

Edit2: nevermind they only used chimera for one boss for the non english log. It has 11 casts total and only on Ghamoo-Ra

First log ran chimera for all of raid but didnt get anywhere near that 375 crit (which is what would be needed for a 450 crit) even after looking at the normal hits and guestimating what the crit would be by doing a X2 to them.

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Odd how noone wants to respond to the statistical data that proves 450 crit isnt happening even in the best raid logs possible after the nerf.

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It’s more like nobody wants to argue with someone so categorically wrong that only argues outside of good faith. You poopsock your response the same way you poosock raids. “But muh raid parses!” The game doesn’t revolve around raid parses. Spozzy said cya and you’re like “Hmn… Why am I not getting a response? Hmm… Clearly I’m correct here. On my level 10 worgen hunter… Hmm…” You’re so mentally melted here it’s hilarious. It’s two raid accounts vs like what, 7 first hand accounts in PVP not PVE. Lmfao. Go outside or something or actually play the game dude.

I also love how you say “Erm, 450 crit isn’t happening in muh data” Dude… PVP exists, it’s one half of the game LOL

I gave stagistical data proving im right.

The raid parses show the maximum possible damage of LB.

Is 375=450?

I used THE BEST available parses from after the nerf to give the highest damage possible on the data i was using to represent LB capability and even then the highest it got was 375. Even with orc racial it wont reach 450.

Yes pvp happenes, but raid parses at the 99+ percentile show what is possible with the best gear and best buffs.

So is 375=450? Yes or no?

A 500hp fresh 25, backpeddling who has no idea what half their abilities do died to the big bad danger noodle, cried on forums they died to a hunter class mechanic.

Blizzard rushed to the poor fresh 25 with blankets and coco and started wildly swinging their nerf bat at the hunter while in a blind rage.

Literally an hour after the nerf people were still complaining about hunters and saying ‘do it again, do it again!’ lol. Thats why.

yes because bosses have resistance players have gargantuanly lower?? I’m not reading your wall of slop text that is, again, showing the account from a raid mate. You’re just melted and unable to think anything else. When I have a guild of 40 people that are all in agreement and have said accounts of the opposite of what you said, yeah, I’m taking that way more than your sloppy data.
You’re lame
You just argue to argue
You don’t care about the health of the game
And you pretend to know what you’re talking about instead of being honest
So here’s the attention you’re desperate for, you won’t be getting anymore from me either, begone you foul beast.

You do realize they removed resistances from almost every boss in the raid to help casters perform right?

Most of those bosses have 0-25 nature resistance. So they dont have enough resistance to make that 20% difference from 375 to 450.

I dont care for balancing a class off of back peddleing scrubs that click their spells from their spell book.

Most of the complaints are about being soloed by a hunter pet. Something that can be CCed or bursted down in group pvp quite easily.

I dont think someone is complaining because it happened in group pvp…

This game is not balanced around 1v1 for pvp so the complaints about 1v1 are not something the game should be balanced on.

No, not really.

If their pets are 1v1ing people im pretty sure thats a reason to nerf them if its frustrating enough people. If it was balanced around group pvp and people can just CC their pets, then why did they nerf them in the first place?

You make 0 sense.