Hunters specifically beastmaster

100% agree. BM is dead now and useless.

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Good job, I also unsubbed, but I did it the first day they nerfed BM hunter.

You don’t need to complain; Blizzard nerfed/fixed scorpid poision, LB, AND blanket nerfed pet scaling all together but they buffed actual hunter dps.

Now you can’t just sick your pet on someone and auto win sorry. Now your actual character has to do something beyond a click pet attack command. I know life must be so unfair. /s

I don’t want to play MM hunter. I bought the game because I wanted to be BM. Now BM hunter sucks, so there’s no point of me playing unless I start to like a different class/spec and level again.

It’s unlikely I’ll bother because I’ll spend all my time just for blizzard to screw me over again. False advertisement.

Now BM hunter sucks

You’re just being disingenuous because you don’t know BM sucks after this fix because it hasn’t even gone live yet.

What this does do is fix hunter pets which were CATEGORICALLY AND OBSCENELY BROKEN. All you’re really complaining about is that you aren’t able to abuse something that was completely broken anymore.

Note you didn’t leave any middle ground; for you either BM is busted OP or it ‘sucks’. It isn’t even something you wish to entertain that it would be fixed to a suitable level instead of being so busted pets solo 1v1 BiS gear warrior because anything other than being busted ‘sucks’ to you apparently. That is the only real implication here.

I have no time or sympathy for people like you and your fake tears about how you can’t abuse your broken crap anymore. At least wait for the FIX THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED goes live before you complain your too weak because complaining before that means your actually only complaining that you’re not going to be busted OP anymore.

Theyre nerfing scorpid poison and adjusting other pets to be better than they are currently. So 2 pets will get nerfed, others will have their damage increased.

Its not about the pets doing 60% of your damage, its about your pets being able to solo players with their dots while every other pet type is hot garbage.

warriors can top the meters by 30% for all of vanilla, but hunters being in the top 5 dps in 2 weeks of SOD means they are “busted OP” and must have their play style changed. and yes there are parallels to wotlk ICC patch when hunters were in the top 5 dps after getting trap launcher, and the forums was spammed with people complaining about hunters doing good in pve lol

There was no need to nerf LB, only scorp poison was scaling incorrectly.
LB did good dmg because it’s a rank 3 lvl 24 ability and we won’t have access to next rank for phase 2 so it was already going to be dethroned.
Scorp however is a lvl 8 ability and was totally broken.
The good think is claw scaling (if that’s going to be a thing), but cats will be kings once again.

The 10% nerf to pet armour and stamina was totally unwarranted also

They do though? Do you even check parses. Warriors are doing over 300 dps right now. Hunters and their pets don’t benefit from raid buffs in the same way warriors do. Hunters HAVE to do as much as a raid buffed warrior otherwise they’ll never be brought to raids. We’re on track to be era raid comps. 20-25 warriors, a few ferals for wind fury, and then healers and paladins for buffs. Maybe 1-3 mages/warlocks. Horde might bring 1 hunter per raid for lion.

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Naw, by 60 they will give warriors a kings shout because they are underrepresented :rofl:

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They do though? Do you even check parses.

Omg the irony. If you check logs right now Hunters are ranked the #1 dps in the BFD raid. These are the scores / ranks of DPS in the BFD raid per warcraftlogs.

Hunter 73.92
Rogue 73.34
Warrior 64.10
Druid 63.91

So wth were you trying to say? Sounds like a lot of nothing.

Warriors are doing over 300 dps right now.

Not according to warcraftlogs but nice flipping try.

Hunters and their pets don’t benefit from raid buffs in the same way warriors do.

Yes, which is why you SHOULD NOT expect to compete with melee raid DPS unless blizzard gives you something like windfury. And even then, no class can scale with wind fury like Warrior does because it increases their rage generation.

Hunters HAVE to do as much as a raid buffed warrior otherwise they’ll never be brought to raids.

Looking at it by percentile BFD logs shows Hunter do more damage than warriors at every percentile except at the TOP 1% of players rofl.

You said look at logs. Looked at them. They made a complete mockery of everything you tried to say.

Warrior has the highest logged dps in BFD. Sorry but you’re wrong.

Yes you just gave a great reason to nerf warriors. They have the best scaling and they’re already #1.

Hunters are the highest rated DPS in BFD logs period and 99% of hunters out dps 99% of warriors; and that top 1% is just the warriors who got obscenely lucky with crits and WF procs lol.

That you for demonstrating you don’t actually know anything about logs and are just some pathetic hunter trying to defend your broken and now rightfully fixed/nerfed class. Shut up and sit down. Fix already went live, conversation and debate over.

PvE balance isn’t all that important aslong as one class isn’t just completely blowing everyone out the water. I’ve seen mages with 350 DPS on AoE pulls, hunters max out at about 140 on AoE pulls, it’s their single target that’s good, and even rogues and warrior are right behind them usually. I couldn’t tell you more cause we dont have a handful of classes going DPS, our priest is a healer, our shaman is a tank, our warlock gets like 70% of the DPS hunters do on single target. No one is complaining about PvE balance it’s all PvP balance. Which in turn nerfs classes in PvE since their engine dont let them have a PvP version of an ability and a PvE version.