No, but that’s why I told op to change the mindset. I just think it’s valuable to understand what’s actually being complained about
Also, I wish they’d tune rogues offensively and defensively around the expectation that they’ll get into stealth all the time. Sub/assa damage and outlaw survivability seem tuned around the expectation that the rogue is taking unmitigated blasting full uptime and it just isn’t. Feels unfair
But that doesn’t really have anything to do with those being good against stealth, I mean outlaw for one doesn’t even really rely on being in stealth whatsoever which is a large part of it
Jungle is also really all you can run competitively as a hunter and that limits your roster severely since hunters aren’t an enabler class like they once were, only mages are (hence every team necessarily has one)
But anyways having you do have strong anti stealth mechanics as hunter it’s just not really that relevant when you’re fighting an outlaw rogue
Probably one of the more relevant factors to rogues being able to get clean restealths though in general vs non hunters is just every rogue being kyrian and kyrian pot is actually only super useful if you’re a rogue, plus the stealth conduit is still really strong regardless of what happens
Nothing really hunter related though
It could be something around 30 seg duration UNDISPELLABLE or 1 min duration dispellable.
30 seconds dispellable is ridiculously useless.
Its hard to see him complaining about anything other then “mark sucks can’t stop rogue in stealth” when he says things like this tbh.
I 100% agree with the way rogue is balanced though.
Don’t think awc perspective is helpful here and on ladder cupid is plenty viable *to at least the rating that could inform this kind of thread imo
Yet this change would be the right thing to do.
The point is, rogues needs decent counter. Hunter Mark is not OP, theres no reason to be weak as it is.
yes you are just an absolute prophet why did nobody ever think of your argument, keep going king, keep showing up these absolute bozos 
From a 2’s point of view (the only bracket you seem to actually play), why are you not leaving your pet on the rogue? Outside of Vanish that rogue can’t do a thing about it and you shouldn’t even need hunters mark. Can’t get restealths with the pet hitting it so mark is irrelevant.
If they attempt to run and kill your pet just dance the pet back and forth for heals and get down a tar trap on one side of the pillar, and a flare on the other side and send the pet back in.
It was mostly when bringing up hunter awc rep
What changes exactly
Rogues already don’t ever get restealths vs hunters for the most part
I’m not even sure what you’re suggesting to change
In reality, you’d just be owning druids more than rogues with any improvements to hunters mark
If anything you could just suggest flare to have a faster travel time again if rogues are going to move as fast as they do in stealth or something so you can flare vanishes more reliably but otherwise I don’t see anything truly wrong with hunters mark as is
Hunters mark has a half global so it’s super easy to reapply it anyways on a dispel
Oh my b I didn’t even read what you were replying to
what are your thoughts on big booty hoes?
This post is not about me, nobody play as hunter on AWC, a single rogue spec surpasses all hunter representation. This is DEFINITELY NOT a case were a single hunter doens’t know how to deal against rogues. Stop pretending rogues vs hunters are a ok situation its just disgusting.
You should generally be favored in that matchup, no?
Thats whats suposed to be.
Its not happening according to all worldwide database
Where are you seeing matchup winrates?
Hunters just aren’t really the best tournament class, because your rosters are locked to only one composition
And it’s not like they haven’t still been able to be successful with that one composition either, your tourney strength basically comes in from is jungle broken beyond belief y/n and then you can do well with it
Hunters in like Legion/Wrath/Cata/Mop had an enabler role just like mage does so you could build team compositions around hunter in mind, but now you can’t really and so even if they’re good they just are going to have low awc rep. Competitively this is probably the biggest thing that sucks for hunters and a change like what you’re suggesting doesn’t fix that whatsoever anyways, it would be something else that’s fotm anyways
As for ladder they always have low rep tbh, never been that popular of a PVP spec
I don’t even think you know how to analyze the data you’re using properly tbh, the representation of hunters is low no matter what’s meta
Every reason you see low awc rep for hunters is because of factors that have nothing to do with actual strength and more to do with the role that hunters have just lost
And ladder rep has never been that solid for hunters regardless of how powerful they are, Jungle was the best comp in the game in Shadowlands S2 and even won AWC but still had low ladder rep 
At least within rank 1 range though you actually see quite a few hunters, more than I’ve seen in a good while and you have representation from all 3 specs too
you don’t have to do all this juggling to say what I said from the beginning.
hunter is demonstrably less efficient, thats why its not popular.
This talk that it was never popular is inaccurate, BM has been the most played spec more than once.
Death, taxes and Challenger Hunters arguing with Dilly.
Your bad suggestions would not help hunters dominate in the AWC.
I don’t recall this ever happening even when BM has been beyond busted outside of it being 2s rep you’re looking at
If this is what you want changing hunters mark doesn’t accomplish that whatsoever
You could implement whatever changes you want to hunters mark and it wouldn’t have any noticeable impact towards viability