Exactly. And never once has a melee dps seriously asked for that to happen. But people find it ironic that hunters have the nerve to think this way.
Also hunters get Rhok’delar pretty much for free and it’s guaranteed for their class. The strat UD xbow or the AV quest xbow are what hunters go for beforehand. They don’t want to roll on blastershot or striker’s mark for example, because of the speed as far as I know. That’s how I understand it.
No, there are far better options for us out there… Ashkandi in the hands of a hunter is a waste and serves no good use.
There are better options.
Secondary note, that most hunters are effectively Walking TSA bots; most are not really there for DPS because they’re spec’d TSA and as a result do not scale with gear because they’re TSA spec’d…
IF you have a hunter who’s not spec’d TSA and he’s there to actually do damage because he’s spec’d SV MM hybrid (lighting reflexes), then he’s going to want gear with as much AGI as possible; as a result he would go for something like DW bone slicing hatches (to start) and enchant 15 AGI on both.
There is NO good excuse for Ashkandi going to a hunter at any point ever excluding every single melee who can use the thing already has it and it’s about to be DE’d… At that point and only that point should a hunter get it.
You’re welcome Mr. Warrior, I saved you guys from hunter loot grabs…
Signed: Williams, a true vanilla hunter.
Thank you for your contribution. I think ultimately what this comes down to is people just wanting an item for vanity, but not actually understanding or caring about mechanics, and class roles, and just claiming “PvE / PvP BiS” as their rationale, when it’s obviously not.
Also PvP BiS should never be an argument you can use for a weapon that is not actually utilized for its weapon damage. It’s probably also PvP BiS (best we’ve had drop thus far) for warriors who will use it to its full potential.
I get the impression that most players who’re decked out in BiS have next to ZERO comprehension as to why the items they’re equipped with are BiS in the first place.
Worse they don’t understand why the “META” is the way it is, and that their BiS items in some cases are dependent on a certain raid comp to work.
For these reasons I laugh at most who’re mindlessly glued to the “META” without any real understanding as to why it’s that way in the first place.
There are indeed other less optimal methods that will yield 95% of the same results in DPS…
For the case of “Classic WoW 2019” 95% of the DPS of the “META” is way more than enough given what 1.12 classes are capable of.
This again is why I just giggle at people who’re mindlessly married to the “META” and “BiS” lists because that stuff is more or less only applicable to consistent 99% parse players who I am just not… I can on a good day hit high 90’s, but that’s just not me; I don’t care enough to squeeeeeeze the last drop of awesome for PVE because farming all those consumes for MC and BWL is just idiotic.
Aimed shot, auto shot, scatter. You have 3.4 seconds to run in auto attack-raptor stike and run back. Auto shot, melee weave, aimed shot, auto shot, melee weave, auto, melee wave, aimed shot, auto shot… etc. Adds a significant amount of damage. Ashkandi is a much higher dps increase than 2 1h weapons even with the 2x agility enchants. If you are a guild that prios PVE itemization, it does more for hunters than warriors, esp on alliance.
Nobody takes hunters for dps though.
And in fights where hunter dps matters (like rag kill pre-submerge), they’re definitely not going into melee.
And as I’ve been saying previously, if you’re giving hunters Ashkandi before warriors who also want it, be prepared for most of your good warriors to gquit on the spot.
Conversley, no one gives 2h to warriors for damage as slam is garbage. So it is a higher dps increase to have a hunter weave for your raid. You need 2 hunters for tranq shot anyways, why not make them do 1-200 more dps.
Also, if your warriors are doing ~600 dps with a 2h on golemagg, which is 150 dps less than good hunters, who cares if they quit?
Hunters should never be down ranking anything in the first place. If your following your rotation you shouldnt be running out of mana even with max ranks and no mp regen; certainly nothing a mana pot couldnt fix.
Even if they won’t use it for PvE (on horde, they probably will), give it to them for PvP. They will carry your wsg groups so people can get rank armor for PvE.
Wrong.
Come back when you understand hunter.
Ps. We dont use scatter.
Pps-my logs show I know my class.
Its’ not wise for us to depend on a melee weapon for damage in PVP as a hunter. If you’re in melee range the best thing you can do is GTFO because if you don’t you’re dead.
Any competent Warrior, Rogue, Ret, Shaman or Feral will flat destroy you if they’re geared / spec’d properly… Getting back out to range is 100% your primary job.
This is why FD Trapping and Scatter trapping is key VS melee; because they have the advantage over us inside melee range.
Sure I can do quite a bit of damage to a rogue / cat if they get in my face, but I am also taking a lot of damage in that same situation that I don’t need to take if I simply get back out to range.
If I cannot get back out to range then I have problems that Ashkandi would never help me with in the first place.
Again there is just no good rationalization for giving that sword to us… Sorry.
The AP alone is reason enough.
Weaving is for PVE yo. Never said anything about pvp
Sorry misstype, meant multi-shot.
It’s a hunter weapon
Barbarous blade>ashkandi for hunters by an enormous margin.
2 bone slicing hatchets with 15 agi enchants gives a hunter 112 ranged AP, and a little over 1% crit. Debatably better for dps than askhandi with a 25 agi enchant. 136 AP and less than half a crit %.
And you’d be vain enough to take this from a warrior who would use it for its weapon damage, and not just the stats?
Gotcha, but this theory you are all on about is simply wrong regardless of typos.
Corehound tooth
Brutality blade
Barbarous blade
Lok’delar
All easily attainable and MASSIVELY superior to Ashkandi for us.
why not warriors should be tanking and pallys get that dress on and healing