Hunters in my guild want to get ashkandi

I know change is a hard concept for some people to understand. I know thinking what they’re doing is best and learning it’s not is hard for people to understand. I also understand willingly being just another average boring ole hunter, because you know what? It’s simple. Just sit back, aimed, watch the big crits roll in, and enjoy life. Maybe tranq once in a while, maybe not and just blame it on lag if the tank dies.

Sure, you can top parses like this, just look at the top hunter logs. No way there could ever be anything better, right? Surely MY way is the BEST way. Surely what was discovered 15 years ago is the absolute best no questions asked?

You can do napkin math right? If not, you can reference here and enter it into a calculator.
https://github.com/watchyoursixx/classic-hunter/wiki/Attack-Formulas-for-Hunter

You say NO WAY a hunter would ever weave. Right?

Weaving needs only one simple thing to be pointed out: 1 raptor is worth 1.2-1.4 times the amount of an auto. This means that if you run in and out and completely lose an auto taking nearly 6 seconds to get back into auto shot position, you still do more DPS. A raptor that is 1k damage and an auto that is 1k damage, you could replace the auto with a raptor. Weaving only takes about 3 sec to run in and out. That’s 0.9 sec of an auto lost due to weaving with rhok, and only 0.4 sec lost with ashjre’thul. Adding 1k damage, for 0.5 sec lost… Are you good at napkin math? to me, that looks like at the very roughest of estimations about 80% more damage over that 1k auto. Thats even assuming it’s 1:1 in damage!

Now I know, it’s again a hard concept to understand. I get it. Change is bad. Except, change is actually the only possible thing in this entire game that can make this class legitimately better.

“But top hunters don’t do it. It must be bad or not worth it.” claiming that just because top people don’t do it doesn’t mean it isn’t the best lol.

As you’ve seen before, Skinnay is probably the #1 parses for weaving. Here’s some more top dps doing it (though less often)

amps does it and he’s 9th world wide
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/sulfuras/ahmps

seanimus does it hes 8th world wide
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/incendius/seanimus

But nooo the top 7 don’t do it so it must be bad, right :slight_smile: I crit less than my friend, and he doesn’t weave some fights I do. He usually parses higher regardless. Does that mean weaving isn’t better? no, just means someone did some favors for good rng guid :slight_smile:

If I was to tell you and prove to you using fast af daggers was bis on rogue, but no one was doing it, is it still better? does the fact people do or don’t do it make it any less better? How can any new ideas ever be discovered if everyone is set in their own, simple minded ways?

TL;DR weaving is good, it’s just not caught on yet. It’s like bottled water. People think it’s a dumb idea until they realize they could’ve made billions if they’d thought of it sooner.

If you take nothing away from my post fine, but know this. A few months from now, more and more people will be doing it. Will you?

-Sixx
Link to spreadsheet below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BIlB2P1kyV_QdD4ULQzvZvS6hK6BDouUQkyHQzCvBGI/edit?usp=sharing

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