How Would Alliance Players Finish The Story?

I saw your like on Veliina’s post.

He actually had intelligence from Azsuna and knew to destroy the object that she was there to get and use.

The War of Thorns was not justified. It was a preemptive attack because she did not think that the peace would last. The purge was a reaction to an act of war. See the difference.

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I do think she was justified to go to war after the assassination attempt made by Genn. I also think she lost her moral high ground when she chose to swing on the Night Elves who hadn’t done anything to her at that point. My statements are not mutually exclusive.

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I’m pretty sure its actually fixed, one of these days I will have to redo it and see for myself.

Alliance and Horde defeat Nz’oth and Sylvanas. Nz’oth vanishes to prepare for Void Expansion and Sylvanas is disposed.

Dust settle and Horde decide a new warchief. I vote Thrall. I want Thrall back. Sue me.

Here’s the break:

Two Factions

  • Alliance gives Horde ultimatum; join the disband the Horde and join the Alliance for a unified front against Nz’oth, or suffer a war that will never end. At any time they see reason, the Alliance will accept ex-Horde.
  • Horde refuses, and prepare themselves for Void War + Alliance-Horde War.
  • Alliance splits focus on East and West. Eastern Alliance (Stormwind, Ironforge, Kul Tiras, lead by Anduin) build up forces to fight in Void War. Western Alliance (Exodar, Remaining NE, led by Tyrande) continue war against the Horde.

No Factions

  • Magni Bronzebeard informs the players that the next war will be unlike anything they’ve ever fought and to fight it you must be willing to cast off old alligences to fight with no regrets.
  • Alliance and Horde players, join Magni and enter a “Azeroth Faction” which puts all players into a new third faction which allows them to play together.
  • Alliance and Horde, now without their greatest assets (the players) are forced to return to their corners of the world to build up forces and prepare for the Void War.

Can you tell me what food group Saurfang will stop eating after that genocide?

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The intelligence didn’t actually say much. And repeatedly in Stormheim, he talks about how they don’t know why she’s there.

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Wait, is that even still canon? I thought they retconned that.

I’m going to be redoing the story line from Azsuna through Stormheim again soon. If you are right I have no problem admitting that I was wrong.

Glineas know that the attack was ordered by Garrosh and that she disobeyed his order not to use the Plague. They had spies in the Church where she was given the order.

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The log says this.

<… ing Legion repelled from Orgrim…>

<… on the Broken Shore. I have every faith that my crew will bring glory to the forsaken and make the Dark Lady proud. We’re half a da…>

<… barely survived. Queen Sylvanas has ordered the fleet to make way for Stormheim. I have a staff meeting with Admiral Harker on the Windrunner in an h…>

<… teresting to be certain. The queen is going to steal the very power of the v… or herself!>

<… separated by a massive storm. I’ve given the order to batten down the hatches and weather it. There’s no sign of the fleet. Once the… [illegible text] … we’ll catch up and rendezvous at the…>

I believe they say it in two quests. But the one I remember most is Shielded Secrets, which is near the end of the entire zone questline.

It’s obvious at this point that the Horde wants something in Skold-Ashil. Unfortunately we still don’t know what they’re after. We think the secret lies with the shieldmaidens here, so we need to find out more about them.

Some early scouting revealed that they have a method of carving their shields to tell their stories. Go into the city and find as many of these shields as you can. With luck, we will find what Sylvanas seeks.

And when you complete it.

Val’kyr, you say? This is worse that I had imagined. If Sylvanas is able to create more Val’kyr, there will be no limit to her armies! It seems the vault is her goal. We must stop her!

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Chronicle adds that Sylvanas was eager to invade Gilneas, but it doesn’t quite retcon away that Garrosh ordered it:

    Gilneas had escaped invasion from outside forces due to the massive Greymane Wall on its northern border. But that had changed with the Cataclysm. Earthquakes had shattered part of the wall, leaving Gilneas vulnearble.

    Garrosh Hellscream was not the only member of the Horde who desired Gilneas. Sylvanas Windrunner was eager to bring the kingdom under her dominion. She convinced Garrosh to give her control over the invasion force, and she led the Horde’s rampage through the isolated nation.

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Anything that’s cooked

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It’s actually Pork. The sounds of the pigs getting slaughtered reminds him of draenei children being killed.

    Dave Kosak (Game Designer): To be fair Jaina was teleporting Sunreavers into the Violet Hold. She (and Alliance players) only fight the ones who are fighting back.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/14ofsk/the_purge_of_dalaran_genocide_on_sunreavers/

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Thanks, that is what I thought. I remembered the wording but couldn’t find the comment off-hand.

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Too bad that’s not what we see in game. In game she slaughters countless cowering civilians due to how they programmed her AI for that scene.

She casts wide AoE Blizzards, which hits cowering civilians, which flags them as “hostile”, and then her ice elements shoot them to death in the streets.

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To point out a technicality, the Displaced Sunreavers attacking her when hit by the Blizzard sounds like fighting back.

The cowering civilians don’t defend themselves against her until she hits them with her huge blizzards she’s aiming at other people.

Effectively, living in Dalaran is the crime she sentenced them to death for.

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That’s still fighting back. If Displaced Sunreavers were not programmed to attack back then they would not have gotten on the water elementals’ aggro list.

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