If we continue to add levels after shadowlands, they can always turn the xp back on.
This is where I stopped reading, because it so perfectly proves what youâre about.
You will label literally every person asking for a refund, regardless of how it is phrased, as âentitledâ. Itâs provable. Itâs proven right here.
You are grasping at the sweet, sweet power you were denied all those miserable years. You will never have it. Even when no one gets a refund here, itâs not because of you.
I am not going to wallow in your sadness anymore. Who you are is here for all to see. You obviously can reply to this if you want, but I wonât read it.
Thanks for breaking down the math, even if itâs 300k (not picking on your numbers game but letâs say rhetorically it was) Iâve leveled more than a single character on all of them. Iâm not personally mad about the change, thatâs probably 2.5 tokens I never spent an entire one on heirlooms but I might have spent half three to five times.
Youâre right, they arenât going away, it was just a bit of bad form that they announced the negative without the correlative positive (what they will actually look like). All I wanted to point out is why some people are jumping the gun, it may not actually be as much money as it feels like. I could spend the whole wad on a single boe if I really wanted to, and I wouldnât even get to keep the corruption or relevancy. Still probably one of the better ways to spend your money especially if youâre leveling every other month like myself.
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This is definitely the biggest issue. If nothing else, I hope Blizzard learns to not announce the bad news until the good news is ready.
No one quits MMOs on a high note. They quit out of boredom or frustration. The psychology matters.
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I donât mind the XP boost leaving if it means that I get to level my alts with this new leveling system. I donât want to drudge through the Legion zones ever again!!!
No, youâre claiming that. You go after me saying that all Iâm doing is saying everyone is saying theyâre entitled. When that is far from the truth, Iâve replied to the same people multiple times, and theyâve all felt entitled. But you would know that if you actually clicked through all of my messages, instead of just clicking on view activity and looking at my post history there.
So then answer my question. Because you want to say I âonly go after those I feel are entitled.â Why do you feel people should feel this way? Because as Iâve proven to you very quickly, you are 100% wrong in who I go after. If the people Iâve replied to had been actually asking, instead of demanding, you would have a point. But no, you only go into the activity, see that a lot of my messages are similar, and assume.
You have to run, because youâre just like Bearfour from the other topic âIâm right, youâre wrong.â And hell, I just went back to the other topic and realized you had replied to me there too, and when I showed you proof that proved you wrong, you ran away there too. Regarding your stance on heirlooms being âpermanent exp boost items.â
I donât blame people being upset. I just donât agree with them and think it comes from a place of emotion more than reason.
Initially I was upset about it too, but then I stopped and worked out how much usage Iâve gotten out of my heirlooms, how much Iâve spent on them, and the general speed it takes me to level a character now to whats possible in Shadowlands.
And the end result wasnât anything worth getting upset about. Iâve gotten way more than 200k value in my mind out of heirlooms leveling dozens of characters, and Shadowlands leveling is going to be significantly faster than leveling currently is with full Heirlooms, War Mode and the current 100% XP buff.
Could Blizzard have announced it better? Absolutely. They definitely shouldnât have announced it until they had the bonuses hashed out, though the cynical part of me thinks that theyâre gauging community reactions to figure out exactly how good they need to make the bonuses.
But even without them, Heirlooms are still going to be useful while leveling, if only because they scale and regular gear does not.
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I feel theyâre more trying to get people to suggest things that they could consider for it. Honestly, Iâd like versatility being added to each piece. Being able to dish out more damage and take less. But I wouldnât complain about a movement speed increase, or set bonuses.
That was very well spoken. My concern was initial as well but I got over it. Some of them I have recently bought in the last few months but every one of them is on or has been on at least one character. My cloth gear has been on so many characters Iâve lost track.
At the end of it all, Iâd still use them even without the xp, I just likely would not buy more (though if I tried to level oldschool I could even change my mind on that).
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I think itâd be kinda cool if they made them into set bonuses.
So if you had 2 Heirlooms, youâd get increased movement speed out of combat.
4 set could be increased chance for your quest/rare rewards to upgrade into Blue or Epic.
And so on.
Thereâs a lot you can do to make Heirlooms useful while leveling beyond the convenience of never needing to find a new chest, helm, weapon, etc.
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Yeah. That would be nice. I think too maybe they could even add specific things to each piece as Iâve seen suggested. Like helm increases flight path speeds, legs give movement speed, gloves giving instant mounting.
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That would be interesting as well.
Faster Flight Paths would be amazing for questing in areas like EK or Kalimdor, whereas instant mounting would be amazing for areas where flying is required, like in Wrath.
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First off. Youâre shelling out hundreds of not thousands of dollars right now for a game that wonât be around forever. How is that any different?
Second, you paid for them and got over a decade of use out of them. You got your golds worth of use out of them.
Third, they still have good stats on them and you donât have to worry about swapping out gear at all while leveling. You can enchant them and leave them.
Fourth, if you bought a T.v. and in 10 years it stopped working, you wouldnât ho demanding your money back. And if you did youâd be laughed out of the store.
Stop over reacting.
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I can help. Blue post in the Customer Support forum, made three days ago:
Iâll be curious to see how easily countered this is.
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I was there for when that thread was made.
TC for that was proving a point that the ToS/EULA does say weâre not entitled to someone who was saying that those didnât say that. Other person was told to then go ask Blizzard themselves, but other person went the âno, Iâm right, youâre wrong route.â So the TC of that did, and showed him that we are indeed not entitled to a refund. We may ask for them to consider that option, and if they so choose to offer one, then we become entitled to a choice on whether to take it or not.
Everyone makes this argument and itâs real dumb.
The heirlooms are not susceptible to mechanical failure.
If Sony came into my house and removed a feature of a TV that I paid for 10 years ago, Iâd do a lot more than demand my money back.
What Iâm curious about is if RAF will be losing its xp bonus, it should right, all the same arguments for looms losing their buff apply to the RAF buff as well.
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Decrease the exp % bonus the heirlooms give. Or remove the exp % bonus and allow Heirlooms to remain BiS throughout leveling with no experience bonus.
Quest and never need to worry about gear.
I donât see this ever happening. It would create a literal Pay-to-Win mechanic. Remember, twinks existâyou can PVP and turn off XP gain as a lowbie.
For this statement to be true, heirlooms would need to be better than all raid and even legendary loot. It would make heirlooms incredibly powerful even at max level, becauseâif such a thing existedâa 119 epic would have been more powerful than anything released before the first tier.
A ridiculous exponential growth of stats at max level would be necessary, which is counterproductive given theyâve done two stat squishes and have a level squish in the works.
They could potentially be better than blues, but that would still create a problem at max level in the first patch.
Heirloom need a buff anyway. They are in between greens and blues when they use to be above blues. Now they are removing the XP buff and plan on some other stat? Like what? I bet its gonna be some silly cosmetic thing.