Easy fix for all the complainer about people with high ilvl rolling needs.
you get the mogs of all lower-level tracks of tier mogs if you have a higher track IE. If you have mythic track for a chest piece you automatically get the heroic, normal, and LFR. So needs to be for people with high ilvl running LFR and needing on mgs.
Make it so anyone with an ilvl of 455 and above is unable to queue for LFR. It will be greyed out for them. This way you won’t have people with high ilvl joining LFR needing on gear and selling it or DE it for mats.
These 2 changes will make it so only people who need the gear will able to do LFR and not high ilvl players can enter so LFR is now filled with people who actually need the gear for ilvl. High ilvl players will also be happy since they can get the mogs they want. And people who do LFR will now have to actually work to down the boss coz there won’t be anyone doing 100k + dps on the boss now so if you have people just auto attacking or afk well expect a wipe. This will also get people who do LFR knows the very basic mechanics of the boss instead of taking the floor in the first 10 sec and expect to be carried.
Yea but this change will make it so all the people who lost their roll to someone with better ilvl stop complaining coz they think they should have the loot. Now they can’t complain about someone with 489 chest rolling on a 441 chest piece anymore.
After a few wipes people will get the hang of it. LFR still requires some degree or knowing boss mechanics and if the group doesn’t want to learn then well that’s on them for not reading the boss journal which takes 5mins. Beside even when guild progress heroic sometimes there is wipes that bound to happens. I can tell you personally my guild also wipes on some boss in heroic raid till we get the hang of it. Now we can farm it in a little over an hour.
Look at Mythic raiding and how many wipes they have and they don’t give up. I am not saying LFR needs over 100+ wipes to down a boss but if people expect all the boss to be tank and spank then they are going to wipe and is a good thing. Teach people how to play this game instead of complaining about easy content being easy coz they got carry. Now people who do LFR will need to learn a bit about mechanics instead of being carried.
I haven’t done lfr in such a long time, but lfr was awesome if you had to do a little chores around the house go in die right away and come back about 4 or 5 minutes later.
This would only make ques worse this wouldn’t fix the issue you have with LFR.
The LFR fix is simple. if the game senses you have any gear on your character above LFR ilvl it blocks you from rolling need. That means if someone wants to be cheeky and put the gear in their bank, it will still lock them from rolling.
Maybe i want to que LFR with some friends and dps some things if I have a mythic I lvl it shouldn’t matter, just stop me from needing on things I don’t actually need.
Of course there will need to be some nuance to this and special conditions, but it seems fair enough.
Perform both a transmog and an item roll. Individuals who already have an ilvl upgrade can only choose to roll greed or transmog. Others who can use that piece are eligible to roll need or greed or transmog but only one of those.
The item roll would be need if any rolled need, and greed otherwise. The winner will get the actual item. The winner of the transmog roll will only get the transmog.
Trinket rolls would be the same as now (and trinkets have no transmog slot anyway).
People have the option of getting LFR level gear from world content, too. Other people who want trinkets and the like should be able to get them from wherever they want.
Make transmog roll just give everyone who hits it the transmog appearance without taking gear from someone if that’s the concern people have.
honestly your idea is the best for it, or better yet remove need/greed from LFR to prevent griefing, no reason for need/greed to exist in lfr, atleast when personal loot was a thing you’d atleast get 1 piece from the raid, now you are highly unlucky to get anything even if you run it week after week
The ilvl restriction won’t work because of upgrading. Like on this character I only do lfr. I’m 460 something but from upgrading. That stops people from upgrading gear until they get everything they want.
If that is the case once you hit a low item level from mythic you can’t enter the raid. Sounds dumb doesn’t it?
I can tell you as someone who is still regularly doing LFR to try and get the Raszageth skin, no they won’t get the hang of it. Not without someone writing out in chat what needs to be done. Yes it requires some degree of knowing boss mechanics and that’s the whole point. Lots of people still just jump in not knowing any of them. Those people won’t read the boss journal. They’ll just leave.
Groups wouldn’t even get passed Diurna without experienced players handholding people through it. And sure, experienced players can include just LFR players. Like myself. But at the same time, having people who vastly outgear the content just makes up for the shortfall of people just mashing their faces on the keyboard. I’m not being elitist in saying that some people are just really terrible at the game.
That’s a completely different type of player. That’s a friend group, working together, actively trying to solve the problem of the fight. No one is going into LFR with that mindset. They either already know the fight, because it is well documented before we go in, or they are willfully ignorant and just want to attack the boss.
This is false. There was never a guarantee of getting gear, there have been many people who never got gear for weeks, and if you did fet something it could be useless with crap stats and you couldn’t trade it if it was a higher ilevel, so everyone got screwed.
It still baffles me how first they forced personal loot on everything, then had to add a bandaid in the form of legacy loot mode, and then they reintroduced the old need/greed system into LFR, the one mode in the game that definitely should use personal loot.
The clueless incompetence is just mind boggling, especially since this all began due to their attempt to fix a problem that didn’t exist. If you queue for something, personal loot. If you enter it manually, it should drop full loot. It does not need to be any more complicated than that.
well, from my experience i had better luck with personal loot than need/greed, literally they could have fixed the higher ilvl trading thing but hey…feels good running lfr multiple times week on week only to lose roll to someone with a myth track item in that slot, so still getting screwed but this time with no lube
We can get the LFR sets without even doing LFR. Note that the mode still has importance to complete raid quest like the helm enchant for ppl who don’t organised raid. So restricting ilvl is a pure net negative.