So if you can’t premade you’re saying you wouldn’t av? Fair matches are frowned upon I guess in your universe.
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Too funny. So true, though. Has Herod been any easier to travel around in?
you are a cheat. go play something else
you mean how its slanted to alliance 100%? You cannot lose a zerg as alliance period horde on the other hand cant even make it to your bridge while your on drek. Cry some more about imbalance. Unless we wipe your zerg and defend off the bat we cannot win. You know how hard it is to get people to listen to that when its 40 randoms? 30min ques minimal for a 6-7 min loss.
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I actually saw this post at another business…so…
Just give up ranking? And lose all their progress. Sounds like you don’t understand the system, and probably should stop commenting on it.
I wouldn’t. That’s the state of alliance pvp atm. Its not just the fact that I don’t like losing 9/10, it’s mostly because everyone is so toxic and salty in AV pugs. Nobody even tries to win. It’s a truly unfun experience. You couldn’t pay me money irl to pug AV that’s how bad it is. Plus I’m already exalted, so if there were no premades I’d never do AV again, waste of my time.
This is an MMORPG practically meant for forming communities of friends, and you want to remove the ability for groups to que together? stop suggesting removing the que number. just add the ability to que together so both sides can. If they dont lose needed team members, they wont drop. (Ever tried to kill Drek/WM’s while having heavy horde resistance and no tank? **** that. It’s much more fun to join an organized premade. To those who don’t hop in a premade discord, do it, if you don’t have the 100% mount, time to farm some gold first. Plus the horde are pretty good about fighting back even if it means turtling/mass recalls because of their que times, so no this is not an attempt to reap some imaginary easy wins.
just because you cant doenst mean you cant let everyone else do it
I love pvp its one of my main reasons for playing wow but yeah something has to be done.
AVs would most likely be 50/50 wins without the alliance premades. but since alliance is the only faction able to use this exploit, the non premades groups are at a huge disadvantage. simply because their lacking alot of the faster mount, gear, more competitive players, etc.
why dont i join a premade myself you ask? becaues wows a game. i want to relax and enjoy a battleground. not have to log into a discord and listen to a bunch of nerds just to enjoy an hour or so of pvp to relax.
if this was actual vanilla, id be fine with being able to form a raid for an AV. this would obviously not be nearly as abused as the discord premades because it would be server only. in essence, the original vanilla wow premades were alot less disruptive to the average player than this mess we have now.
No one really cares about faction inbalance. I’m perfectly fine waiting in a que for 20-30 mins. What I’m not okay with is waiting 20-30 mins, or longer, then getting stuck against yet another alliance premade that ends the game in 7 mins or less. The methods alliance are using to glitch drek and group que for av should be considered a bannable offense. Av was not meant to be group qued so it’s a roundabout way of cheating to use discord. Glitching drek is just all around bs that would take 30 seconds for blizzard to fix but they won’t.
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I really don’t understand where the alliance come from when they try and defend alliance AV premading, if you actually think outside the box it is hurting the entire community. You are dodging Qs to get a good raid composition, which in turn leaves your fellow allies alone 10vs40 for the horde to stomp. Not only that but because you are making honor per hour so bad for the horde we are resorting going back out to wpvp again and having to corpse camp all your casual players.
Theres no excuse for it, you guys found out a round about by using an automated discord and you continue to exploit the warmasters to solo pull drek. Can I ask why none of the alliance members would actually want a fair fight against the horde? Or are you all that bad that you have to resort to a huge advantage?
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Blizzard won’t do anything to stop alliance AV premades until their favorite streamers like Swifty, Joker, etc get GM.
Watch - nothing will happen (if anything does) until after alliance streamers have GM…I’ll bet gold on it.
Yeah, much easier getting around since AV.
Think your playing the wrong BG then. AV can’t be won by a single person. Without the coordination of at least 10 people it on either side it would never end. Meanwhile WSG 1 person could outplay several as a flag runner and carry a game.
But we shall forget that for the moment. What do you suggest?
Removing the AV# so friends and partners can’t play a large part of an MMORPG together?
Or something else?
These premades are made using discord to coordinate queueing and BG selection as we all know. That is none of Blizzards business as far as I am concerned.
I suggest that dropping a BG queue should simply put a deserter debuff on the character similar to what happens when someone leaves a BG prematurely. The players can continue to create their premades but it would greatly diminish their ability to manipulate the instant queues that one faction is seeing.
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suggestions?
If raids could que together dropout would decrease dramatically because people would play with others on their servers. And both sides could so it would be fair.
Or do you not like that either?
Also regarding honor, you can still get almost 2000 honor (LT’s) by the time a premade runs a 10 min game so I think that’s a flawed argument.
Only if they introduce 15 min game limits and / or remove or alter deserter debuff. We lose our premades you should lose your turtles.
No that would be fine, either let both factions queue together or remove premades all together.
Its not flawed lol, I’m literally corpse camping a 58 gnome lock in searing gorge as we speak. Do you know why? Because I need to stay competitive with the top standings in between our 30 minute Qs. 2k honor is nothing. Alliance premades win before the time we can cap any bunkers for honor, thats why we turtle as much as possible, because its the best honor per hour strategy currently.