As the topic says, there’s NO OPTION in the game for this and going through the ticketing system simply tells you to do it in the game.
This is like blocking anyone who actually wants to report toxicity, rather than making it easier.
Why is there no clear button in the ticketing system to create a ticket for that reason?
You would report for the options you have, chat, spam, cheating and name against the rules.
You should be able to report chat for a time, but if this is your concern, then you should report right away.
There currently is no way to report players leaving mythic keys, if this is your pursuit, but developers do keep track of that by using in game metrics. If they state intent to ruin your run, then right click and report for chat that way.
Just to add, now that I found your other post:
Being removed from a group is not specifically against the rules. Vote kick is allowed in random group finder content.
For specific invite content, the group or raid leader has the right to remove anyone from the group.
It depends what you mean by toxicity, Lovelywazee.
That usually is chat, which can be reported even if you have left or been removed from the group. If you are trying to report someone removing you from the group as toxicity, I’m afraid that is not generally considered a violation.
It was in a random dungeon group in The Dawnbreaker where they used vote to kick others simply because they went to mini boss. And that was after being rude to them for not following. When I pointed out why are they being toxic about other players, they simply vote kicked me too and then laughed in whisper.
So, once again, WHY is there “no way” to report someone when not in the group with them anymore which OBVIOUSLY can and does happen most of the times to begin with?
I’ve spent about half hour going through VARIOUS options in the ticketing system and as soon as anything related to player reporting comes up, it’s a catch 22 circle of directing/misleading someone in circles who actually wants to report toxicity, rather than giving them a clear and direct option to do so.
Edit: I read it only after posting this.
The issue is not simply vote kicking me, it’s only after I questioned them for misusing the vote system, which most of the players simply click YES! (and that’s another issue, how bad that voting system is), they voted kicked me too and then laughed it off as well simply KNOWING the fact that they will NOT face any consequences of their toxic behavior.
Feel free to direct me towards any link where I can provide further details in private form and of course the ingame logs will be there to see.
I’m sorry, Lovelywazee, but a group may remove anyone for any or no reason. The Vote to Kick system is intended to give players some agency over who they are grouped with. If they, as a group, feel the member isn’t a good fit, they can vote to remove that player from the group. That is not considered a violation of our policies and behavior that can be reported.
If they were “rude”, meaning toxic, that really should be reported at the time it occurs.
You can place those members on ignore and you shouldn’t be grouped with them through LFR/LFD.
That STILL doesn’t answer the question, why isn’t there a proper and clear way to report a player when NOT in the group with them anymore?
And this player clearly violated new codes and conduct by disrupting other players’ gameplay and then later when questioned, mine as well… And yet I can NOT find anywhere to report this.
Are we NOT taking the new rules of disrupting others’ gameplay into account when it was clearly a abuse of vote kick system to disrupt/grief others?
As a tank, I could get another run faster but that toxic player clearly was laughing at their actions and knowing no consequences, they would continue to do so with others.
Because, simply, it isn’t. Getting kicked from a group isn’t “disrupting others’ gameplay”. That’d be someone dragging a world boss into a city and let it lay waste to everyone and NPCs there.
You can’t disrupt other’s game play by kicking them from a group. Period. You can be kicked from a group for any reason or no reason at all. People can be kicked from a group for wearing an ugly transmog. There are no new codes and conducts so I’m not sure what you are referring to. The kick system is years and years old, it hasn’t changed much in that time.
Kicking people for ANY reason, or no reason is allowed. Blizzard gave players those tools on purpose and while it is not nice, it is not considered “disruption”.
If the majority does not want a person in the group anymore, they are allowed to kick them. That is not against the rules so you can’t report it.
There is no such thing as "abuse of the vote to kick system. They can kick you for wearing a red shirt. If the majority wants a person gone, the game ALLOWS them to be removed.
They stopped three players from playing this game by abusing a system that we ALL know is a weak system where players simply click YES without reading. This “is” disrupting other players’ gameplay.
And later they laughed about it proudly, knowing they can get away with this toxicity.
And someone winning loot someone else want could be class as such, too. This is why trying to stretch a statement to cover stuff like “They did something I don’t like” isn’t a good stands to take for the rules.
You may not like it, but that is not against the rules in any way. Kicking, for any reason at all - nor NO reason - is allowed.
Blizzard will not force those people to keep someone in their group that they don’t want. That one person is not allowed to disrupt the play of the majority - hence the vote part.
The system can’t be abused so no they didn’t. Again this system is NOT new, it has been the same for years. This question has been asked and answered for years.
This alone contradict the new rules, you can either have THIS or the new rules of social behavior and gameplay disruption. Unless you can direct me to a link with official statement from Blizzard AFTER the new social and gameplay rules where they also stat, “players are allowed to kick anyone for any or no reason at all”, this looks like a personal opinion.
And once again, the question stands… Why isn’t there an option in the ticketing system to file a report AFTER someone is not in the group anymore?
I obviously won’t be providing extra details in public forum, but if there was actually a ticketing system I could use, there will be details.
Generally speaking, because if someone was doing something against policy they should have been reported immediately, not after you might have a grudge against them. So social violations such as a bad name and/or inappropriate/toxic chat should be reported right away. Potential violations which are not specifically social fall under cheating/exploitation which also have a right click report option. However, if you cannot report them in-game you can email Hacks@blizzard.com.
That isn’t exactly how that works.
Yes, it may have disrupted your game play for that dungeon, but it isn’t exactly considered a disruption of game play when it comes to our policies. Sorry.
The Vote to Kick system is not perfect, I don’t know many who would say otherwise, but it is the system that we currently have. If you’d like to see it work differently you are welcome to submit a suggestion for our Developers.
When you say “new rules,” are you referring to this? Actions Taken to Curb Griefing by Repeatedly Leaving Groups
If so, that’s a very specific thing that doesn’t apply to your situation. Even if it did, there would be no report for you to make, because it’s based on people being frequent offenders, which you can’t know - Blizzard monitors and takes action as they find appropriate.
If that’s not what you mean, then I don’t know what you do mean, as there aren’t any new rules. I can’t add to what’s already been said.
Yeah, it was very nice of me to actually ask what’s going on and why are they being rude and acting that way… I guess my bad there? But still, that does NOT answer the question of WHY isn’t there an option in the ticket system for reporting when not in the group anymore.
Also, are you really suggesting me to email “hacks” for this? Would it even be appropriate since I wasn’t “hacked”?
Well, then how does it work? Would you please elaborate rather than simply saying the above since I provided a clear example of disruption and social behavior which new rules are introduced to encounter that exact behavior.
Thank you for agreeing on this, as I am sure we all have seen how players would simply click YES without second thought regardless of what’s in that little text box about the reason of vote kick or even who’s being vote kicked.
Read the behavior part and also, the new ingame pop-up social agreement, which I can’t find the link for now, further stats these things. And this alone contradict “you can be kicked for any/no reason at all from LFG just because…”.
The answer has been given, by a BLUE., you just don’t like it.
There isn’t an option because that is how it currently works. The Game Developers who designed the reporting system deemed it not a necessary option. Be that because of an oversight, or they had specific reasoning for it I couldn’t say.
If you feel other options should be made available, you’ll want to make that suggestion to our Game Developers. Customer Support has zero involvement in game and system development.
No, which is why I specified what issues that would be for.
Game disruption does not mean, whatever an individual may believe disrupt their game play. There are lots of activities that disrupts a person’s game play. Being killed in PvP, having someone kill a mob that you needed for a quest, etc…
Those actions though, do not violate our policies.
The most recent discussion about game disruption was specific to folks constantly abandoning Mythic+ groups. That is one the reasons it was specified, to be clear on the behavior that our Game Developers consider is griefing/disruptive.