How to repair the Horde

[Pebrock-kelthuzad]

But you just derailed it yourself.

@Erevien-moon-guard

The other eternals betrayed the Jailer and took away what was rightfully his by default, aka the dominion over the Shadowlands now claimed by the Arbiter. Yes you read that right. The Jailer was the original ruler of the Shadowlands.

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

Sacrifice for what? Shes not a mana bomb that by sacrificing would explode and take down oribos completely…

What a great idea! Let’s transform Sylvanas into a mana bomb and throw her on Torghast!

[Juuhachigou-tichondrius (Juuhachigou)]

No! I like Torghast its fun. Nowhere else ingame I can endlessly stomp on bosses with a 1sec infernal strike CD.

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

No! I like Torghast its fun. Nowhere else ingame I can endlessly stomp on bosses with a 1sec infernal strike CD…

Just at the Jailer’s throne. The other zones can remain because of gameplay. Deal?

[Espydemic-proudmoore]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

Like I said you arent going to make a difference by asking nicely. This isnt the Alliance this is a system in place since before the Horde or Alliance existed. In order to break free some sacrifices must be made. What about all the people before the Arbiter broke there are countless more who never had a choice either.

So you’re going to volunteer others to make those sacrifices, but not yourself, and then you will reap the benefits and rule what is left after the afterlife and all life has been destroyed.

This is basically you making excuses for the horrible actions of the Jailer and Sylvanas, and arguing that doing the exact same thing - only worse, as the millions of souls are annihilated - as what you complain about is justified.

Sacrifice for what? Shes not a mana bomb that by sacrificing would explode and take down oribos completely.

Sylvanas’s soul would be a lot more useful in terms of consuming for power than most other souls.

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Espydemic-proudmoore

So you’re going to volunteer others to make those sacrifices, but not yourself , and then you will reap the benefits and rule what is left after the afterlife and all life has been destroyed…

Couldn’t be more correct than this.

EDIT: Sylvanas is basically a Illidan clone except Illidan does not actively hope he gets the chance to sacrifice others and she is so greedy she wants to randomly sacrifice everyone.

[Maljinwo-quelthalas (Maljinwo)]

lol, grazrug. Did you get banned on MMO Champion again?

[Juuhachigou-tichondrius (Juuhachigou)]

@Espydemic-proudmoore

So you’re going to volunteer others to make those sacrifices, but not yourself , and then you will reap the benefits and rule what is left after the afterlife and all life has been destroyed.

Yes, someone has to lead. Otherwise nothing happens.

[Pomorghön-ragnaros (Pomorghön)]

@Erevien-moon-guard

The war started when

…Sylvanas killed Genn’s son and blighted Guilneas

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

@Espydemic-proudmoore

So you’re going to volunteer others to make those sacrifices, but not yourself , and then you will reap the benefits and rule what is left after the afterlife and all life has been destroyed.

Yes, someone has to lead. Otherwise nothing happens…

Yes, someone has to set an example. Otherwise nothing happens.

Fixed.

[Espydemic-proudmoore]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

Yes, someone has to lead. Otherwise nothing happens.

Ahh, so it comes down to the ones leading being the ones you like - who are the ones telling you that these things are justified and that it’ll all work out in the end.

This would result in the death of all life, and afterlives. How is that a good thing?

[Juuhachigou-tichondrius (Juuhachigou)]

It would free us all.

[Espydemic-proudmoore]

That’s what the ones doing it are telling you. Those are not the people you want to believe.

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

It would free us all.

Which is why we’re saying, let’s free ourselves by transforming Sylvanas into a mana bomb.

I’m not sure if your priority is your waifu or the fact that you want to “free us all”.

[Sybilmalkav-argent-dawn]

Sure, and the Alliance hasn’t had eyes on Loerderon since, oh I don’t know WC III?

[Juuhachigou-tichondrius (Juuhachigou)]

And according to you who should I believe?

[Espydemic-proudmoore]

@Sybilmalkav-argent-dawn

Sure, and the Alliance hasn’t had eyes on Loerderon since, oh I don’t know WC III?

Other than Wrath, they haven’t really made any steps to try and retake Lordaeron. They’ve lived in lands where they were already living, but there was no dedicated movement to take more land.

Until Wrath, with the battle.

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

And according to you who should I believe?

Your own faction leaders for a change?

[Sybilmalkav-argent-dawn]

Right. Just keep believing the propaganda that Genn keeps feeding you like puppy chow…

[Espydemic-proudmoore]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

And according to you who should I believe?

The ones without a stake in it. And, probably, the ones also not suggesting that all life should die and millions and millions of souls be consumed.

I dunno. Hard to tell.